The Daily Obamanation .... ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

That's why I said, right or wrong, good or bad.

All I'm saying is it's not necessarily racist to suggest that the colour of his skin is playing a role in the campaign, either in a positive or negative light.

It would be absurd to suggest otherwise really. I mean he's the only serious black candidate, pretty much ever right?

Once America has a black president or two, things might be different, and skin colour won't come into it as much. But right now it does, obviously.

 

If all other things were equal, and their policies were the same, you'd have a point. But McCain and Hillary are running on different platforms. Anyone with common sense would want the person that represents their beliefs in that situation, regardless of charisma or likability.

Like it or not, Sly is exactly what Petre says the typical Obama supporter is. He's so caught up in the hype of his 'charisma' and the rest of the buzzwords, that he doesn't care...or doesn't know...what Obama actually represents.

TFK

 

do you think he's a stuffed shirt? or do you think he stuffs his pants? i betyou dream of him putting his black snake in your dry dirty ass cave and makeing you bleed out of your ass

 

Ok..answer me honestly.

Who would you rather see as President:

Alan Keyes...with Republican policies that you agree with 100%

or

John Edwards with the Liberal Democrat policies that he was running on.


Be honest...honest honest honest honest.....

 

Why would you think I agree with Alan Keyes or Repubican policies?

I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I agree with some things Republicans agree with, disagree with others. I agree with some things Democrats agree with, disagree with others.

I form my own opinions, I don't allow a political party to do it for me.

Plus, that's not a fair comparison, because Keyes is a nutjob.

TFK

 

Ah...I knew you'd give a "policians answer" instead of directly answering it. In doing so you have proven my point already.

nevertheless...I'll CONTINUE WITH THIS until you answer it.

Forget Republican or Democrat.

Let's just say that Alan Keyes was running on policies that YOU agreed with 100%...vs the Liberal Democrat Policies of a John Edwards (whose policies are very similar to Obama...of whom you say you couldn't support because of those policies).....

One of those two were going to be president in this scenario and in the privacy of teh voting booth, you had to choose one.

Who would it be?

Oh and Alan Keyes is not insane (a "nut job" as you put it)...or he wouldn't have been in position to even run for office....

 

Oh...and the same question to Atomicdogg! opcorn:

 

I would vote for Keyes, if he stood for what I believe in. I would vote for Edwards if he stood for what I believe in. But hypotheticals aside, I wouldn't vote for either of them.

TFK

 

Last sentence is irrelevant.

I don't believe FOR ONE SECOND that you would vote for Keyes (who you just called a nutjob) over Edwards, even if Keyes stood for what you believe in. You're not fooling me or anyone else around here....and you're not fooling yourself.

Of Course you had to say that to remain consistent..and I can't prove that you are now lying.

However...I'm sure that this has at least made you consider that me choosing McCain over Hillary, regardless of policies...is not as ridiculous as you tried to make it seem.

Dude you have to like and/or respect the person that you're voting for to become President...it's not just about the policies....because in the end of the day Republican or Democrat, Black or White....America will do what America will do.

The two parties are two sides of the same coin.

 

Sly, your question is pointless because it deals in hypotheticals. If Keyes stood for what I believed in, I obviously wouldn't think he was a nutjob.

Whatever point you're trying to make, you're failing miserably. And your hypothetical scenario's do nothing to make your stance that you'd support McCain, who's policies you don't agree with, over Hillary, who's policies you do, look any better.

TFK

 

Dude....I'm not aligned to Democrats anymore than Republicans. My views on policy lie inbetween the philosophies of both parties and neither of the three candidates share my views on everything...all with pieces.

As such...as you said before...all things are equal on that front...and so it comes down to "the intangibles" policially speaking...if you will.

So therefore...it is YOU my friend that do not have a point..or else agree with my point from what you've already said.

 

But the differences in philosphy between Clinton and Obama are minimal, whereas the differences between in McCain and Obama are numerous.

Your stance that you support Obama, but would rather see McCain over Hillary is asinine. And if you can't see that, or admit that, then that speaks volumes about who you are.

TFK

 

You're not that stupid, and so I have to assume that you're deliberately trying to avoid what I said.

I said thyat I'm not aligned to the policies of any of them 100%. I'm AS CLOSE to what McCain stands for as I am to what either Hillary or Obama stand for.

So ith that in mind I choose who I'd rather see as president and in that order it goes:

Obama, McCain, Clinton.

 

JebusHCripes ... I have to believe the USA isn't full of enough idiots to elect this con man.

:doh:

 

ignore adoggs bullshit...the guy is around 25 years old...he has no fucking clue what went on during the clinton, reagan and bush election years. all he's doing is googling conservative propoganda then coming here and feigning first hand experience and knowledge. anyone who was old enough to remember those campaigns knows charm & charisma were a HUGE factors in the elections of reagan, bush and clinton.

 

For phonetap.

 

If you dont think Charisma and public speaking ability are very useful assets and just ''policy'' is enough then you are politically ignorant.

Since the Dawn od democracy the ability to make people believe in you and like you have been priceless assets.

 

Of course charisma and public speaking ability are great assets, but I don't care how good you make a pile of shit sound, it's still a pile of shit. If you're preaching something I don't agree with, it doesn't matter how charismatic or friendly you are.

This is the problem with this country and it's voters. Too many people will choose a candidate based on personality, and not care, or even know about what they actually stand for.

TFK

 

Style is fine , so long as there's substance as well. Without substance , you're just a con man.

 

No matter how good your policies are if you dont have the leadership ability and charisma to sway people to your views you will have great difficulty in getting elected.


Personality and leadership ability are very big assets for a politician.

 

Examining Obama's Church ... AND OTHER QUESTIONABLE CHOICES AND ASSOCIATIONS

Church of a President of the United States of America ? I don't think so ....

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You go Reverend! Praise Allaaahhhh Jesus!

 

making white people afraid of angry black people.

RACIST.

 

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You go Reverend! Praise Allaaahhhh Jesus!

 

Church of a President of the United States of America ? I don't think so ....

 

Church of a President of the United States of America ? I don't think so ....

 

white people be vewy vewy afwaid of angry black people.

The boogie man is coming.

 

Senator Obama said "Reverend Wright is like an Old Uncle who sometimes says things I don't agree with".

That's the bottomline, end of matter.

 

When racists want to make white people afraid of obama at first they say that he is a muslim, now they say he goes to a church where they use the "be afraid of angrly black people" slant.

Racists :shit:

 

I agree with I and I. I may have to rethink my position on this matter. ::

 

I'd love to investigate all of the groups, clubs, churches that Ron Paul was a member of at some point or another and scrutinize them.