The Daily Obamanation .... ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

now you are babbling incoherently because you are desperately trying to cover your own ass. you know the old saying, "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". at least barack obama has condemned the statements his pastor has said....you've NEVER at any time condemned anything ty cobb has said, you've always ignored cobb's racist views, used his images as avatars then have the audacity to pass judgement on the attitudes of currrent players like barry bonds. you have a well documented history of not applying your self-righteous sensibilities across the racial spectrum...sorry but there is a pattern with you that can no longer be ignored. not saying you are personally a racist but be a man and admit white racism doesn't bother you as much as black racism (or what you perceive as black racism). you are only human, admit to it...

 

i didnt know i had to denounce a dead man :dunno:

but if it makes you feel any better i not only denounce it but i also reject cobbs racist views ::

instead of trying to change the subject from is obamas pastor racist or not to ty cobb and "white racism" why dont you just answer the question at hand?

im against racism in any form, last i knew ive been preaching for a while now that not only do i but everyone should view people as individuals, racism cant exist without the collectivist mindset

 

maybe compared to your poor ass, but barack has far less money than hillary or guliani....that was rev wrights point. that being said, phonetap doesn't agree with wrights methods...he should have known this crap would come back and cause obama problems...:doh:

 

instead of perpetuating the issue by just arguing in circles how about we argue something more concrete, like policy for instance? :dunno:

just an idea

 

dude rich is rich

oprah isnt rich compared to bill gates but her ass is still rich

 

what assbackwards logic...are you saying it's okay to idoloze a dead man's ball playing skills but not okay to denunciate his personally racist views. do you have any clue what you are talking about...you're speaking in unintelligible circles...:laughing:

it's funny that you bring up view people as individuals...you aren't viewing barack obama as an individual, you're viewing him through your distorted prism of association.

 

agREED...be back later.

 

wrong again fuckface

if as an individual you decide to associate yourself with racists and terrorists than be prepared to answer questions

it was obamas choice to associate with these people, no one elses

as far as cobb, i didnt realize his personal views were relevant to the 2008 election

 

good atleast we can agree on that ::

 

Tell that to Petre...

 

his point is valid, theres just no use in arguing it

 

The reverand looks more or less white ::

He is the whitest brother I've ever seen. He could be a rugged Yorkshireman.

 

you calling him an uncle tom you racist pile?



























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Back up the truck for a big load of bullshit coming , tomorrow ?

This will be as genuine as his dennouncing Farrakhan. In other words ... not truth , just damage control.

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March 17, 2008
Categories: Barack Obama

Obama plans major race speech tomorrow


Barack Obama will give a major speech on "the larger issue of race in this campaign," he told reporters in Monaca, PA just now.


He was pressed there, as he has been at recent appearances, on statements by his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright.


"I am going to be talking about not just Reverend Wright, but the larger issue of race in this campaign," he said.


He added that he would "talk about how some of these issues are perceived from within the black church issue for example," he said.


He also briefly defended Wright from the image that has come through in a handful of repeatedly televised clips from recent Wright sermons.


"The caricature that’s being painted of him is not accurate," he said.


The speech could offer Obama an opportunity to move past the controversy over his pastor, and to turn the conversation to a topic he'd rather focus on: his Christian faith. But the speech also guarantees that the Wright story will continue to dominate political headlines.


Mitt Romney's attempt directly to address his Mormonism last year never decisively put the issue to rest for some voters.

Obama's schedule puts him in Philadelphia tomorrow.

 

He has done this all after the fact.

He's in major spin mode. First he compared Wright to a 'crazy uncle'. Then he claimed he was 'unaware' that Wright was preaching the nonsense he was preaching, in spite of him being a member of the church for close to 20 years. Was he 'unaware' of the close association between Wright and Farrakhan as well?

This has nothing to do with racism, and deep down inside, you know it.

TFK

 

Damn Sly, your stock has plummeted on this site over the past few weeks, and it's because of garbage like this.

Could it at all be possible that Obama is being attacked because....oh, I don't know...he's a politican running for President??????

How are these attacks on Obama's character any different then the Swiftboat Veterans attacks on John Kerry? This is what happens in Presidential elections, and color has zero to do with it.

Hell, even Phonetap said...

So I'm supposed to believe people would be attacking Paul for a different reason then they are attacking Obama? I'm supposed to believe that the Swiftboat Vets attacked Kerry for a different reason people are attacking Obama?

Jesus Sly, it's so damn obvious that you so desperately want white people to be racists, even when they're not, you're letting it cloud your judgement and common sense. It's even more clear that absolutely nothing is more important to you about any of this then the fact that Obama is a black man.

In your failed attempts to label everyone as racists, the only racist that was exposed was yourself.

TFK

 

Yeah sly, he has a point.

You're getting all worked up and emotional, you need to chill.

Every politician or presidential candidate gets attacked, and often in sneaky, underhand ways etc, almost every skeleton in the closet ends up being exposed.

It's certainly nothing new with Obama, and not because he's black.

 

And save all the 'White America won't allow a black man to be President' nonsense when Hillary Clinton and the Super Delegates steal the nomination from Obama. His skin color has nothing to do with it.

She would steal the nomination from her own mother.

TFK

 

So?

1. Was Clinton's denouncing of geraldine Feraro's comments or her husband's, genuine? Politicians have historically "pandered" when necessary.

2. How can you expect Obama to happily reject and denounce his former Pastor. If he did that...he would be a complete hypocrite. The man is his friend. He has to proceed very carefully indeed. He has to remove the fears of teh electorate but he mustn't stomp all over this man.

 

TFK has a point but I don't recall inviting you into this discussion. Leave us big boys to discuss this matter.

 

One of the buzzwords that was thrown around a lot about Obama was how he was gonna 'Unite' America!

How is he gonna do that as a member of a....as Phonetap puts it....'Racially Divisive' church who's preacher preaches anti-American sentiment?


TFK

 

By the way TFK...you do have a point in regards to the fact that the media would attack any politician regardless of skin colour.

But I do think it very unfair to hold on to this Jeremiah Wright business and denigrate Obama as a result.

 

I agree with you to a point and then you come back with this shit! :doh:

here we go again...

 

Sly, why shouldn't Obama be held accountable for his association with Wright and his Church?

He's been with the church, what, 17 years? Was he unaware of his pastor's opinions? Was he unaware of the racial divisiness of his church? Was he unaware of the close connection between his pastor and Farrakhan?

He either knew about all of this, and accepted it and chose to make himself part of this church, and to stay for 17 years, which in that case, he's not the type of person who can 'unite' this country and he damn sure shouldn't be president.

Or he was either ignorant to all of this, and if that's the case, clearly is not capable of running this country if he doesn't even know the score at his own church.

So which is it, Sly?

TFK

 

it was 20 years

his pastor also traveled with farrakhan to meet with quadaffi

 

Obama's Church

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Election 2008: Since we first drew attention to Barack Obama's Afrocentric church a full 12 months ago, other media have weighed in. And additional disturbing information has come to light.
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At the core of the Democratic front-runner's faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism, which raises political issues of its own.
<IBDIMAGE1 />In 1991, when Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, he pledged allegiance to something called the Black Value System, which is a code of non-Biblical ethics written by blacks, for blacks.
It encourages blacks to group together and separate from the larger American society by pooling their money, patronizing black-only businesses and backing black leaders. Such racial separatism is strangely at odds with the media's portrayal of Obama as a uniter who reaches across races.
The code also warns blacks to avoid the white "entrapment of black middle-classness," suggesting that settling for that kind of "competitive" success will rob blacks of their African identity and keep them "captive" to white culture.
In short, Obama's "unashamedly black" church preaches the politics of black nationalism. And its dashiki-wearing preacher — who married Obama and his wife and now acts as his personal spiritual adviser — is militantly Afrocentric. "We are an African people," the Rev. Jeremiah Wright reminds his flock, "and remain true to our native land, the mother continent."
Wright once traveled to Libya with black supremacist Louis Farrakhan to meet with terrorist leader Muammar Qaddafi. Last year at a Chicago gala, Wright honored his old pal Farrakhan, who's fond of calling whites "blue-eyed devils," for lifetime achievement.
It comes as little surprise then that Wright would think Israel a "racist" occupier of Palestinians, while describing the 9/11 attacks as a "wake-up call" to "white America" for ignoring the concerns of "people of color."
Wright makes the Rev. Jesse Jackson look almost moderate and patriotic. Yet this is whom Obama picked to baptize his daughters, plus to act as his "sounding board" during his presidential run.
The candidate already has heeded his church's "nonnegotiable commitment to Africa," spending an inordinate amount of his campaign time on the Kenyan crisis, for one. Obama has close family ties to Kenya, and even founded a school in his ancestral village — the Senator Obama School.
In the bloody conflict there, which already has claimed some 700 lives, Obama appears to have sided with opposition leader Raila Odinga, head of the same Luo tribe to which Obama's late Muslim father belonged.
Obama's older brother still lives there. Abongo "Roy" Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture." He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.
Beyond family politics, these ties have potential foreign policy, even national security, implications.
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country. He has also vowed to ban booze and pork and impose Muslim dress codes on women — moves favored by Obama's brother.
With al-Qaida strengthening its beachheads in Africa — from Algeria to Sudan to Somalia — the last thing the West needs is for pro-Western Kenya to fall into the hands of Islamic extremists.
Yet Obama interrupted his New Hampshire campaigning to speak by phone with Odinga, who claims to be his cousin. He did not speak with Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki.
Would Obama put African tribal or family interests ahead of U.S. interests?
It's a valid question, and one voters deserve to have debated regardless of the racial and religious sensitivities. Thanks to a media blackout of these issues, the electorate has yet to benefit from a thorough vetting of Obama.
We have to wonder how much of the national agenda Africa would consume under an Obama administration. Of the six "world threats" Obama lists in stump speeches, at least half of them concern that chronically troubled Third World continent.
Yes, some of his African priorities are noble, such as fighting AIDS and genocide. But how much U.S. aid, resources and presidential time would he devote to them? How much is enough? If Bill Clinton was America's "first black president," would Barack Hussein Obama be our first president for Africa?
Then there is the issue of his Muslim past. Obama, 47, was raised by two Muslim fathers and attended Islamic classes in Indonesia.
He denies being Muslim, however, and says he "embraced Christ" while answering the altar call 20 years ago at Trinity. (Contrary to anonymous e-mail rumors circulating, Obama never took the oath of office on the Quran. He used a Bible, and Vice President Dick Cheney swore him in during his Senate ceremony.)
This merely raises another concern, beyond that of the controversial church he chose to baptize him. If Obama were ever Muslim, even as a youth, he would now be viewed as an apostate, which in radical Islam is punishable by death. As Mideast expert Daniel Pipes has noted, a President Obama could be the target of a fatwah.
Still, his Muslim heritage is not the signal issue before the electorate. It's his Afrocentric church, which preaches black socialism and black nativism, and his family ties to an African tribe that's fanning the flames of Marxism and militant Islam in a country once considered strongly democratic and a friend of the U.S.
"I believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change," Obama has asserted. He also says his faith has led him to question "the idolatry of the free market."
If a President Obama's foreign and domestic policies are anything like the Afrocentric doctrine he's pledged to uphold, Americans will pay a hefty price, including those among the growing black middle class.

 

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Clinton is a shedevil manhating dyke bitch ... so what's your point ?

 

Fuck you, you bucktooth cunt.

 

Dude, I can answer that question very easily, but I think I'll be wasting my time as you've already decided that Obama is a racist because he was the member of a church who's pastor mentioned black issues and the evil that america has done.

You're an intelligent guy but I just can't discuss such things with a white guy that revels in his own ignorance...