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  1. Trplsec

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    Your money is safe and you know it. This is just another case of Petre trying to find some reason, other than lack of voter support, to explain Paul's miserable performance.

    Uncomitted delegates will swing toward McCain to give him the nod to avoid uncertainty and perceived weakness for the ultimate Republican party nominee.

    The last thing the Republicans need is a candidate that didn't have the needed support within his own party before going up against Clinton or Obama. Nope, the good ol' boys will rally behind McCain and make him a strong front runner for the good of the party.
     
  2. PetreTG

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    :bears: The only guy running telling the truth :bears:

    Ron Paul speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference
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    Part I
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    Part II
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    PART III
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  3. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Sorry you don't like my optimism you big risk taker you! :clap:

    So who do you support again ?
     
  4. Arben

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    What happened with Paul's backroom dealings in west virginia?
     
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  5. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'm not understanding what you're trying to say ? :dunno:
     
  6. Black Market Baby

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    If that is optimism then you are an idiot. I don't even know if you knew what the fuck you were talking about when you said it. Was this is on the heels of your "romney might be dropping out" post?
     
  7. Arben

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    Yeahhhh ok. Romney was crying foul about it the whole day.

    Paul and McCain gave up votes and delagates and they re-counted everything and Huckabee comes out the winner.
     
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    so something the supporters of someone does neccessarily means that ron paul was involved?
     
  9. Arben

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    Paul had every right to stand against this. He didn't.
     
  10. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    What the hell are you talking about ?

    Are you trying to say that a brokered convention isn't a real thing ? Or are you trying to say that there is no possibility of one when there was 4 candidates still splitting the votes ?

    If you are ... I sure aint the idiot you speak of ... you are. My words are the very definition of optimism which makes you the idiot for saying it's not.

    Truth be told , you're just being a jackass and deep down inside I bet you know it and I know it because it's obvious.

    I was being optimistic on a long shot ... sorry you didn't understand that. Now that Romney dropped out , most likely to PREVENT the brokered convention .... the chances are extremely slim .... but they still exist and I still will remain OPTIMISTIC until Ron Paul says he is dropping out completely.

    So shut the fuck up and quit being a jackass. Vote for your bowl of shit. I'm supporting Ron Paul.

    :kick:

    Maybe you need to look up the definition of optimism. But I bet you understood it quite well , your real motive was simply to irritate.
     
  11. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    <!-- entry -->Ron Paul forces Mitt Romney out of the GOP race

    Clearly spooked by a few of Rep. Ron Paul's second-place finishes kind of close behind him, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has dropped out of the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

    Romney was so flustered in his dropout speech to the Conservative Political Action Committee in Washington Thursday, that he didn't even mention Ron Paul.

    That's not unusual, actually. Hardly any other candidate and virtually no major media, especially CNN, has mentioned his name for the last year, so terrified are they of his stare and his libertarian-like views, including downsizing the federal government, bringing American troops home and abolishing the Federal Reserve.

    Sometimes it seems almost like a media conspiracy to ignore the former ob-gyn. Except for not one... but two Jay Leno appearances. They even give Paul less speaking time in the debates, if they don't ban him altogether.

    Despite spending some $35 million of his own money and $55 million more that once belonged to other people, the 60-year-old Romney youngster was forced to give way to the 72-year-old, 10-term congressman from Texas, who has fired up thousands of dedicated and determined and very vocal and frustrated followers, young and old, across the country and permeating the Internet. He's even got one big-name donor, one big-name endorser and another perhaps maybe.
    Ron Paul signs are still flapping in the prairie winds across Iowa, where Paul's caucus finish ahead of Rudy Giuliani launched the former New York mayor's eventual political decline. Then, in New Hampshire despite being barred from the nationally-televised Fox News debate, Paul beat former Sen. Fred Thompson, which began his inevitable political death spiral.

    In the face of Paul's relentless campaigning here and there and his successful fundraising -- he raised nearly $20 million in the fourth quarter of 2007, more than any other Republican -- Romney, who only has an estimated $165 million of his personal fortune left, had no choice really but to quit.

    Romney's exit follows the similar Paul-forced departures of other far more famous GOP candidates -- Giuliani,Thompson, Tommy Thompson, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore. Jeb Bush didn't even consider trying.

    That leaves only Pittsburgh-native Paul, somebody named John McCain and this Mike Huckabee fellow from Arkansas, who seems to have had considerable trouble keeping a job. He's been a radio talk host, a Baptist preacher, lieutenant governor and governor. And Huckabee's had trouble raising money. He got only $1 million in the third quarter compared to Paul's $5 million.

    So Huckabee can't last much longer.

    That will leave only McMaverick, a former Navy squadron commander and POW who endured nearly six years of solitary confinement in Vietnam and then, worse, 25 years of listening to congressional speeches. He didn't get around to mentioning Paul either in his speech Thursday, but he was probably afraid.

    Paul's website reports he's raised another $5.3 million just since Jan.1, which is more than Hillary Clinton can loan herself in one week.

    Paul has given the Democrats until early August to choose between Clinton and Barack Obama, who's so young he can't remember life without color TV.

    According to an authoritative Ron Paul campaign news release, with all of his accumulated fifth, fourth, third and second places, Paul claims to have 42 delegates to the Republican National Convention in St. Paul come September.

    That puts him only about 660 delegates behind McCain and barely 1,149 shy of the number necessary to seize the party nomination in the name of the Ron Paul Revolution.
    And Texas doesn't vote until March 4!
     
  12. PetreTG

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    Could Ron Paul become the "Cinderella Man"?

    By Ian Brockwell
    February 07, 2008
    With Mitt Romney dropping out of the Presidential race and Mike Huckabee likely to join him very soon, the mainstream media will soon be faced with a situation they never thought possible (and tried their best to avoid), a head-to-head between John McCain and the "people´s champion" Ron Paul!

    Sure, the odds are stacked up against Ron Paul, but even the MSM can not possibly print articles about results (if there are just two in the race) without mentioning his name (but I bet some will still try).

    It must be said that fairytale endings don´t often happen in the US in real life (at least not in politics), and are usually found in Hollywood movies like "Cinderella Man" or "Rocky", but if the American people truly love to see an outsider win the "title", now is a good time to make it happen!

    Romney´s supporters obviously didn´t like what McCain has to offer, so why give your votes to him? Does America really need another leader who thinks war is the way forward, haven´t they had enough of that?

    The only man who can really bring the USA back from the dead, is a politician that truly believes in change, a decent honest man, a patriot ---- RON PAUL! Forget the political promises that others make, you have heard all these words a million times before. What changes will McCain make that are going to make any difference to you and your family? McCain is a military thinking man who lives in the past (a political dinosaur), peace can be achieved in many other ways.

    America faces a simple choice. If McCain, Clinton or Obama become President, you can expect much more of the same. Ron Paul is the only way out.

    The MSM have practically raised McCain´s hand in victory already, because they assume the public are sheep and will accept "defeat" without putting up any further fight. Perhaps that is a reasonable thing to assume, seeing as the public have done exactly that for the last 7 years!

    The race is not over, until it is over. You can still choose the winner --- "The usual suspects" or "The Cinderella Man".

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    Ron Paul: Spoiler?

    February 08, 2008 12:01 PM ET

    Why, one may ask, is Rep. Ron Paul staying in the presidential race?
    The onetime Libertarian candidate for president in 1988 apparently isn't going anywhere soon. He barely scratches in the primaries and caucuses but hangs in nevertheless.


    Paul's loyal followers have raised an impressive sum of money on the Internet. And when the media fail to mention his name in stories, those followers call to complain bitterly about it.


    In the New Hampshire primary last month, Fox did exclude him from a debate and shouldn't have. Even as a fringe candidate, he met the criteria.
    In more recent debates, he's been on the stage but largely ignored. His young campaign folks refuse to hear it, but he is not going to be the GOP nominee.
    Paul's congressional district south of Houston is devoted to its politician doctor. He keeps getting re-elected with little or no opposition. In Congress, Paul is known as Dr. No. He votes no on just about every bill before the House.


    In the 1988 presidential election, Paul even ran against fellow Texan George H. W. Bush. He got a whopping 0.47 percent of the national vote—a few hundred thousand ballots.


    As a Libertarian, Paul wants the government to leave everyone alone He differs with the party on the war in Iraq, arguing that we should never have attacked in the first place.


    Paul insists he will not run again this year as the Libertarian Party alternative. Democrats ought to hope he changes his mind. Dr. No will only take votes away from the GOP ticket whether it is John McCain or anyone else.


    He could be like another spoiler: Ralph Nader in 2000, who gave us George W. Bush over Al Gore.
     
  14. Arben

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    I hope know it's a joke....right?

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  15. PetreTG

    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I have to admit I found that article a bit of a stretch myself as IMO it's much more accurate to say Paul is winning the battle of attrition and IF anything Romney has left to prevent a brokered convention ... which is still POSSIBLE but at this point sadly , not probable.

    With Ronmey in it , there was a much greater chance of it. :flip:

    But that's just my crazy optimism talking.
     
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    Larry Merchant Says Ron Paul "IS OBSCURE"

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    He's not really quitting. He's not really suspending his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. He's not promising victory, just to keep on keeping on. But, in effect, Rep. Ron Paul, at 72 the oldest candidate for president and the only GOP candidate to oppose the Iraq war, is facing reality.


    In a statement to supporters on his website, first mentioned here early Saturday, Paul admits, "With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get." In a new 14-minute campaign video, Paul says he wants to clarify some confusion


    His campaign currently claims a total of 42, 1,149 shy of the total to win and some 650 behind the GOP leader, though other estimates give him only 16. He took third in Washington over the weekend and fourth in Kansas behind even Mitt Romney, who'd dropped out. Even if he won every delegate still available, Paul could not capture the party's nomination in September in St. Paul, which is no relation.


    Despite ridicule by other GOP candidates, despite getting significantly less time to speak during debates and, in one instance, even being barred from a GOP debate by Fox News although.... he'd collected more votes than those included, Paul repeated his vow not to attempt a third-party bid, which would drain priceless conservative votes from the party's nominee. "I am a Republican," he said, "and I remain a Republican." He did say he'd be reducing staff and offices.



    Now, whether the 10-term congressman with the libertarian ideals, actually endorses Sen. John McCain is something else. Paul has said we should bring overseas troops home and invest the saved money in fixing America; McCain has vowed to stay overseas, especially Iraq, as long as it takes for success.


    This morning Paul told one of our sister newspapers, "I cannot support anybody with the foreign policy he advocates, you know, perpetual war," said Paul. "That is just so disturbing to me."


    In his website statement, Paul then alludes to probably the largest factor for his refocused campaign: He's trying to run simultaneously for president and his House seat in Texas' 14th Congressional District and faces a challenger in the March 4 primary, Chris Peden, a city councilmen from Friendswood. So Paul will be on two ballots that day.


    "If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat," he said, "all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen." In a new 14-minute campaign video, Paul says he needs to clarify confusion over his dropping out, that he is just altering his schedule to allow primary campaigning in his home district and he intends to compete fully in all remaining primaries and on to the convention.


    Although largely ignored as irrelevant by many media outlets, though not The Ticket, the story of Ron Paul and his thousands of determined, sometimes aggressive, usually good-natured followers is one of the more interesting of the current election season.


    Virtually spontaneously, disaffected Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians and newcomers to the political process began gathering around the plain-spoken Paul last summer and with their nearly $20 million in smaller donations turned him into the most successful GOP fundraiser in the last quarter. On one day he raised $6 million online and was the only Republican to increase his contributions in every quarter of 2007.


    With some 1,400 meet-up groups across the country, letter-writing and sign-waving campaigns and creative publicity stunts, they helped Paul to some second, fourth and fifth place finishes in states such as Nevada, Montana and Maine. He beat Rudy Giuliani in Iowa and Fred Thompson in New Hampshire and financed an eight-state advertising campaign.


    His boosters, who worked the Internet assiduously to right wrongs and make Paul's case, maintain that a corporate-media conspiracy to ignore him prevented the former ob-gyn from getting his less-government message out to most Americans. He certainly was ignored and, only recently, included when providing poll results on TV. But additionally, his strict constitutionalist ideas for reducing the federal government and abolishing the IRS and Federal Reserve Bank and returning to the gold standard may be just too radical for a country today facing international terrorist threats and the current economic uncertainty.


    Even the tone of hundreds of comments left here by Paul supporters changed in recent days from aggressive advocacy to reluctant acceptance of the disappointing reality of continued single-digit poll results.


    It would be interesting if those supporters took the time here now to leave comments explaining why they think Paul never caught on to a wider audience (we already know about the media conspiracy) and what they think about his refocused campaign and their spent donations.


    --Andrew Malcolm
     
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    The Mouse that roared: Why Ron Paul won the election

    Well now, Republicans say, we have a nominee. That may very well be but there was only one clear winner in the confusing GOP nominating contest and it was not John McCain. The winner was Ron Paul. And the effects of his win will be felt for years to come.


    Ron Paul made a classic political mistake. He told the truth. In debate after debate he pointed at his party, his president, his fellow contenders for the GOP nomination, shouting aloud like the little boy in the proverbial story, “they have no clothes†and lo and behold, we looked and they didn’t. They were all naked.


    He showed that the conservative movement has lost its way, its moral authority and its logic. He showed us that we have become a red team versus blue team. That since we have decided that this is a political war and all normal rules are suspended, conservatives can do liberal things to win it. Conservatives can run up big deficits if it helps their side win. They can dole out needless pork if it elects another “conservative†to congress. They can go to war if it makes their president look like a leader and wins him another term.


    But in the process, Ron Paul showed us, that we have lost our way. We are no longer conservatives. We are fighting for power not for principles. We have become corrupted by the process and the only way back is to retrace our steps and find all the things we discarded along he way.


    Barry Goldwater lighted a similar fire with his Conscience of a Conservative. Its truth and arguments were so obvious and so honest that one laughed aloud while reading it. But Goldwater, himself, was doomed to political defeat. And Ron Paul had no chance to win this election either. One could see that when he first opened his mouth.


    And yet, the words and arguments of Ron Paul are still resonating. They still hang over this election. They are haunting and troubling. They are producing blogs and papers and books and like Goldwater’s revolution they will one day very likely produce their own Ronald Reagan. And when those heady days happen a small but hearty band of pioneers, who first had the nerve to join him and start shouting from the street, “They aren’t wearing any clothes,†will be able to say that they could see what the country missed. They were there when history was made.



    John McCain and his poorly chosen words, of staying in Iraq a hundred years, have almost guaranteed that he will be the answer to the trivia question, who was the Republican candidate who lost to the ticket that claimed the first woman and black for the presidency? Another question may very well be, “What other candidate ran that year and launched the movement that has dominated national politics for the last generation?â€


    And the answer will be Ron Paul.


    :bears::bears::bears:
     
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    I'm going to vote for Ron Paul after work today :clap:
     
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    dsimon writes:

    :lol: :lol:
     
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    If he's on the ballet I will be. If not I'll leave and beat someone's ass on the way out :warning:
     
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    You have to learn to back a winner, like me! :cool:

    Obama is the next President, of this there can be no doubt!
     
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    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Sly ... you know you and I are cool but ...

    I will only vote with my conscience and I could never vote for Obama, Hillary or McCain in good conscience.

    What Obama and his Obamanation stand for is very important to this country ... and that is basically, catch phrases and cliche's , with a lot of charisma to sell them.

    Just what we need. More talk and no action.

    What will he accomplish ? ... He'll allow a democrat controlled congress to do whatever they want and will give hard earned tax dollars away in benefits to illegals. New gun control laws will be enacted and a poorly managed health care system will be put in place that further raises prices and lowers quality but maintains the monopolistic powers of the Big Pharma companies.

    With his total lack of economic intelligence , he'll count on others for more poorly managed fiscal policies and we'll see our economy slip into sub super power status as he takes over the reigns of the largest debtor nation on earth.

    The middle class will of course suffer the worst of the Tax and Spend congress as they raise taxes to handle the increasing burdens and we continue to borrow money from the Chinese to stay afloat.

    CHANGE ??? [​IMG]

    Yeah we need BIG CHANGES ... Just remember this ... change is not always for the better ... And don't blame me ... I voted for Ron Paul.
     
  28. Black Market Baby

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    What you don't understand either is that Paul is also all talk. Everyone is until they get the job. You seem threatened by Obama, I wonder if he'll make your next list of "the annointed". You are quickly running out of candidates to pick against.

    Throw out some more Hucksterbee, McCrazy, Hitlery, and Osama quips...they sure are FUNNY.
     
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    PetreTG WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'm curious why you think I feel threatened ?

    The only thing I am is worried about the country my kids are going to inherit and in any of the current front runners , I don't see one that's going to do anything but make things worse.

    Just remember ... Don't blame me ... I voted for Ron Paul. :bears:
     
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