I didn't write the article ... Maybe you should contact the Ron Paul campaign and challenge their claim and ask for clarification. :clap:
You said you were gonna do that. I don't give a fuck, I just don't like bias being spewed here that isn't true. The people here have just as much right to get the real picture as everyone else.
You haven't proven anything untrue ... You posted an exit poll link as your source when the article said ENTRANCE POLLS. You are spewing your own biased opinion to counter my unbiased posting of an ARTICLE I DIDN'T WRITE and using inaccurate source and bias as a counter arguement.
<table cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="650"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2">:bears: </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"> N.H. GOP backs out of Fox GOP forum By: Kenneth P. Vogel January 5, 2008 08:23 PM EST </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="story" valign="top"> In protest of Fox News’ excluding Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter from its GOP presidential candidates forum Sunday, the New Hampshire state Republican Party has withdrawn its sponsorship of the forum. The forum is the last chance for voters to see the Republican candidates face-off before New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation primary Tuesday. And party Chairman Fergus Cullen said Fox’s decision to limit participation runs counter to the primary’s “national purpose.†“Only in New Hampshire do lesser-known, lesser-funded underdogs have a fighting chance to establish themselves as national figures,†Cullen said in a statement posted on the party’s website. Fox has invited former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Cullen told Politico that he had asked Fox News last week to allow Paul and Hunter at the forum, which will be moderated by Chris Wallace at the network’s temporary studio at St. Anselm’s College in Manchester, N.H., and broadcast at 8 p.m. “Our mutual efforts to resolve this difference have failed,†Cullen's statement said, adding “the New Hampshire Republican Party hereby withdraws as a partner in this forum.†Fox did not respond to specific questions about Paul or the criteria used to issue invites, instead issuing a non-response response from Vice President of News David Rhodes, reading: "We look forward to presenting a substantive forum which will serve as the first program of its kind this election season." Fox had previously said it only invited candidates who were polling in the double-digits in recent national polls. <!--—dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;dash;end sidebar&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas&mdas—--> National polls averaged by Real Clear Politics show Paul, a Texas congressman, polling at about 4 percent, behind the five invited candidates. But he drew nearly 10 percent of the support in Thursday’s Iowa caucuses — well ahead of Giuliani — and was polling near 10 percent in New Hampshire — again ahead of Giuliani, as well as Thompson. The Paul campaign praised Cullen and blasted Fox in a statement. "Fox News' decision to exclude Congressman Paul is unfair, but it won't stop Dr. Paul's message of freedom, peace and prosperity from resonating with the people of New Hampshire," said campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. He told Politico that the campaign wouldn’t hold any protest event at the same time as the forum, but rather would “just buy our own airtime and reach New Hampshire voters ourselves.†Paul’s zealous community of Internet supporters, who helped him raise $20 million in the last three months of 2007 (more than any other GOP candidate), have also lashed out at Fox over the last few days, urging protest e-mails and boycotts of the network. Paul will, however, be able to participate in tonight’s ABC-WMUR debate. But it won’t include Hunter, a California congressman. ABC said it was excluding him — as well as Democrats Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel — from tonight's Democratic because they did poorly in Iowa and haven’t showed well in recent polls. Cullen also encouraged ABC to open its debate, telling Politico “it’s not all about Fox and it’s not all about Ron Paul.†</td></tr></tbody></table>
Why not start a "THE DAILY DUNCAN" topic, Pedro? Chuck Yeagar supports Hunter, and Chuck Yeagar is much less of a pathetic loser than you are. Shouldn't we take his opinion over yours?
So when will this 24 hour Ron Paul love fest of a website amend the story or create a new one showing it wasn't as close as this terrible website says it was?
That's because most all those jack ass's don't understand what he's saying (Which was all truth) Also truth , something most politicians shun , makes some laugh nervously. Nothing Paul said was not fact. What the others said , is what they thought the easily fooled want to hear. Congratulations .... you obviously fall into that catagory.
You mean, he didn't give his opinion? He just read facts? I'm glad I got drunk on mojitos, practiced a Chopin prelude and listened to Jackson C. Frank instead of watching that moron read facts.
You're a whiny, paranoid hobbit who stockpiles gold and canned goods because you're afraid of the end of civilization. You really shouldn't talk about anyone else having a stick up his ass.
A soldier speaks out about the war in Iraq and Ron Paul's take on it vs Hucksterbee's. Lb4Lb you should like this ... :clap: ---------------------------- <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5uk-T46soz8&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5uk-T46soz8&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
Looks who's calling someone whiny ... the biggest bitch on fightbeat. Change your tampon punk ... you've been on the rag too long and I think that shit's gone toxic 'cause all you do is attack, bitch and moan like a crazy nonsensical little girl.
No, that's what you do. I merely poke fun at people now and then. Also, that's a mixed metaphor. How could I be on the rag and be a little girl? Are you suggesting that I'm short? Or are you suggesting that because of the consumption of beef, I've gotten my period early from eating too many hormones? Hobbit.
Ok, then I misunderstood the jist of your post. You posted that he got 29% of independent republicans (whatever those are) on entrance polls. To that I say, oh well...too bad, the actual caucus results didn't work out in his favor then. Entrance polls don't mean shit, much like exit polls don't mean shit. What counts are the results. The only difference between your entrance poll data and my exit poll data is that my exit poll data coincides with the actual results. In fact, if you are able to intepret the data like a rational human being then you would also see that my exit poll data pretty much coincides with what your post talked about IF you leave out those imaginary independent republicans. My source wasn't inaccurate, yours was...or at least your interpretation of it. Seriously, show me a few "republican independents". Was it not your point to say that these "independent republicans" somehow constituted a large voting block in which the end results of the caucus didn't balance out with? If it's not then explain it to us. There is no bias on my part, I'm just pointing out you misinterpreted something you read because of your bias. Fuck Petre, even people on the Ron Paul forums are in agreement with me. They had a great turnout in Iowa, better than expected, but they didn't have enough people. In fact, in a few cases people have been complaining that more people didn't take the lead as representatives for Pauls people and try to get more people together.
This is Pedro in a nutshell: He's too stupid to write his own post about politics, so he copies and pastes articles from other websites. He's too stupid to find good articles, so he usually uses articles from uneducated bloggers. Because those bloggers are so stupid, the articles he pastes are usually wrong and stupid. When he gets called out on how stupid the articles he posts, he says, "I didn't write it," defensively.
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Paul failed in the debate because he didn't sell himself, you never said him say: "when elected as president, I wil...." , he just voiced his opinion but didn't promised anything...also the moderator always gave him the last turn, and spent too much time between romney and mccain.
He also proved that he has no healthcare plan whatsoever. Basically, he said, "The economy will be better, so these people will have more money to spend when they have to pay these high bills!" Wow! Great problems solving skills, Ron! Ron Paul and his supporters constantly say how his ideas benefit the working class, but in reality, ALL of his ideas benefit big business WAY more than the American middle class.
Since Paul was excluded from Fox's round table debate ... they did a one on one town hall meeting with him that was aired on PB I believe .... Here Paul get's asked questions from the audience and gets to explain in detail his stance. <object width="425" height="373"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WxldrCsVByA&rel=1&border=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WxldrCsVByA&rel=1&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="373"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="373"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/8VQcpmfT0f4&rel=1&border=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/8VQcpmfT0f4&rel=1&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="373"></embed></object>
Well, I just started watching, and they've already gotten wrong numbers out there. Paul did not miss out of third place by three points. It was more like five without the final four percent reporting. So far, I've twice seen pro Ron Paul reports get the figures wrong. The "alternative" media sources are just as bad as the mainstream.
Oh you mean in the short sound bite amount of time they give him ? Not only is Ron Paul by FAR and away the most educated economist of ALL the candidates who's been proven correct time and again ... but as a practicing physician for over 50 years I'll bet you he knows the system better than any of the talking heads as well.
I'm surprised to hear YOU of all the people on this board say that. I thought you knew more about economics.
