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Discussion in 'Training & Conditioning' started by Buddy Rydell, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    Sounds good. I saw someone was in here so I had to come back. :lol:

    So, training is going well, I hope? :clap:
     
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    Tyler Durden WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Slacking lately, been real busy :dunno:
     
  3. Buddy Rydell

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    I've taken some time off to heal a lingering injury, but I'm still doing chins and handstand pushups. On top of that, I'm working abs by doing leg raises as well. I'm getting back into the weights and running this week.
     
  4. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Been following Jeff Anderson's 'optimum anabolics' program for the last two weeks. It's based on his concept of 'hyperadaptive cycling', basically you regularly cycle both the load and your protein intake to keep your muscles guessing and stimulate testosterone production.

    I've switched round a couple of days to fit in with my boxing training, but basically
    Mon Arms
    Wed Shoulders
    Thu Legs
    Fri Back
    Sat Chest

    Week 1: 3 sets of 6 exercises to failure
    Week 2: 4 sets of 6 exercises to failure
    Week 3: 5 sets of 6 exersices to failure
    Week 4,5,6: 3 sets to 2 reps before failure
    Week 7: back to week 1.

    So this week is by far the most intense of the program. Very challenging doing 30 heavy sets to failure within the 50 minute time limit.

    Protein deprivation cycle begins in week 7 - Im looking forward to seeing if it works as advertised. Can't make any judgements on the program 2 weeks in, but I have gained some muscle and lost some fat and dropped 2% body fat, which is in line with my goals (I started 171, 13% bf, goal in 16 weeks 171 or above at 8% bf) but that probably would have happened doing any decent lifting program. Report back in a few weeks with how Im getting on. :crafty:
     
  5. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

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    Sounds interesting, Hut*Hut. Let us know how it goes for you! :clap: :clap: :clap:

    Well, today I will hit the weights and also do either my chins or my one-armed chins. We'll see. :popcorn:
     
  6. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I will. Im particularly curious to see how the cycle of protein deprivation works because he makes some very bold claims about it in the book and the kind of effect it has on anabolic hormones. He claims that if you continue training hard to the point where the body feels the need to build muscle yet temporarily cut protein intake your body over compensates with hormonal response. Sounds superficially plausible, we'll see. Apparently you'll be able to physically and psychologically feel the difference. I suppose if Im Im walking around with a hard-on 18 hours a day and getting into fist fights at work I'll know it's worked.:clap: Still a few weeks away yet though.
     
  7. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    interesting.. I bet he has something there..
     
  8. Buddy Rydell

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    I'd question it though: stimulating a bit of hormone release would only be useful if it could be continuous. Doing it for a bit at the expense of protein wouldn't be advantageous because you're stimulating hormone release to build muscle. Those two woud seem to be at cross-purposes because when you reduce your protein intake, your muscles catabolize themselves for protein. :dunno:

    Still, Hutster should DEFINITELY inform us of the results so that we can know if the application is useful for him. :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
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    well yeah, he says the hormonal spike persists for a period once the protein is returned. So in effect it's advantage is in it's after effect, once high protein is returned. That's the whole point in 'hyperadaptive cycling' as I understand it - your body's reaction to stimulus lags by a few weeks so by tactically cycling various periods of over training/undertraining and under consumption and over consumption of protein you can coax your body into effectively overcompensating during rest periods and high protein periods. They say there's nothing new under the sun - I am pretty skeptical too, but I felt like trying something new so Im giving it a go. The thought of an enormous surge in testosterone sounds like fun in and of its self anyway, doesn't it?:cheer:

    I'll do this for the 16 weeks of the program then I'm getting my ass into a proper gym with a power rack and getting back on Rippetoe's starting strength.
     
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  10. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I can tell you guys something that REALLY works..

    the next best thing to steroids IMO

    Body Opus..

    it is kinda a modified atkins diet in a way..

    I have done this 3 times or so and the results are incredible.. I mean.. enough so that some will think you are on juice.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    cheers LOK, I'll look into that
     
  12. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I'll tell you what man.. This REALLY works.. if you follow it and train HARD, I have bet people money on this one.. it works like you won't believe. I thought of it when you said about that plan.. cuz this by playing with the carbs.. depleting and then carbing.. it has an effect on some anabolic and natural processes in your body and the gains are crazy.. each week after we'd "carb up" we were MUCH stronger than the week before
     
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    cool....sounds almost exactly like what Rob Faigin recommends in 'Natural Hormonal enhancement' actually and he makes an unbelievably strong case for it. It's definitely next on my list of fitness experiments. I think I'll give that diet a go when I go back on Rippetoe's. :clap:
     
  14. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I'd be interested to see what you think of it..

    when I last did it people thought I was on Juice..

    the crazy thing is after no carbs.. then you carb up.. you can almost feel like you are tripping.. it is a really strange feeling.. but that first workout after carbing is awesome and you get a pump like you wouldnt believe
     

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