The Official Cotto-Margarito II Prediction Thread!

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  1. Garden State

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    Smoger was born and is from Atlantic City. He will not favor Margarito cause a lot of New York and New Jersey is Puerto Rican and they will they will let their feeling known. Long after the fight is over Smoger loves to ref so he will be fair as he usually is.This fight is not in TJ..it is in New York. I'm friggin crazy to see the fight. I KNOW Cotto will dominate. We will all be there to support THE champ!!!!!!GS
     
  2. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    smoger will let them beat the shit out of each other as he always does. unless the doctor is adamant in stopping the fight because of eye damage then smoger will let it go on. advantage=margarito
     
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  4. Hex-One

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    Very interesting stuff. In recent news Cotto has a great recovery time. Below is a translation from another forum member.

    To clarify, he said that Cotto had a basal pulse rate of 40, which is excellent. The average healthy adult has a resting pulse rate between 60 and 80 beats per minute (bpm) while elite endurance athletes range from 30 to 40 bpm.

    Diaz also said that Cotto's heart rate recovery improved from 17.7% to 42%. In other words, one minute after an intense workout (e.g. a round worth of intense training), Cotto's maximum heart rate decreases by 42%.

    Cotto is in great shape


    Here is the video.

    http://www.elnuevodia.com/videos-deportes-miguelcottoentrenaennuevayork-1301802214001.html
     
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  5. Baron

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    I'm anxious to watch this fight. I haven't been this anxious in a very long while. I don't know if that speaks more about me or boxing...
     
  6. Irish

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    Revenge and redemption are the themes when Miguel Cotto defends his junior middleweight title against Antonio Margarito at a sold-out Madison Square Garden tonight (HBO PPV).

    Cotto has no doubt that Margarito used loaded handwraps to win their first fight in Las Vegas three years ago. Margarito denies this, of course, but a photo produced by Cotto showing a tear in Margarito’s wraps after the fight would appear to be damning evidence. This time, Cotto promises payback. Margarito says that he will hit Cotto so hard that Cotto will feel as if there is hardened plaster inside Margarito’s gloves.

    The oddsmakers believe that Cotto will get his revenge. The Puerto Rican boxer is a -200 favourite in the betting. Cotto won his last two fights by stoppage, over Yuri Foreman and Ricardo Mayorga, whereas Margarito has been inactive since Manny Pacquiao beat him up a year ago. Although Margarito gamely lasted the distance against Pacquiao he suffered a fractured right eye socket, and since then he has had a cataract removed from his eye. Although the New York commission has passed Margarito as fit to fight after an examination conducted by a commission-appointed eye specialist, there is a feeling in some quarters that the Mexican fighter might no longer be able to withstand punishment from a top-level boxer such as Cotto.

    Margarito, though, looked in tremendous shape at the weigh-in and his cheerful demeanour indicated extreme confidence. He believes he can do in New York what he did in Las Vegas, keeping the pressure on Cotto and wearing him down for a stoppage win. What no one knows for certain, of course, is whether Margarito had an unfair advantage in the first fight.

    While Margarito took a terrible pasting from Pacquiao he has had a year in which to recover, and it should be remembered that Cotto lost to Pacquiao on a 12th-round stoppage two years ago, suffering two knockdowns before being worn down by an accumulation of punishment.

    Cotto boxed well against Foreman but he was meeting a far less-experienced boxer who was unable to hurt him. He won in dominating fashion against Mayorga but couldn’t hurt his 38-year-old opponent until the final round — for 11 rounds, Mayorga had been mocking Cotto’s punching power.

    I have no doubt that Cotto will sweep the early rounds against Margarito, just as he did in Las Vegas, knocking back the Mexican fighter’s head with the jab, hitting him with sharp hooks and right hands, making him miss and even making him look clumsy. The big question is whether Cotto will be able to keep doing it all night.

    If Margarito loses, it will reinforce the perception that he cheated in the first fight with Cotto. I feel, therefore, that Margarito will drive himself forward with almost fanatical fervour in his attempt to redeem his reputation (or at least go a long way to redeeming it).

    Cotto has a new trainer for this fight, Cuban Pedro Diaz, surprisingly parting company with Emanuel Steward, who prepared Cotto for the Foreman and Mayorga fights. With Steward in the corner, I would have picked Cotto to beat Margarito. Now I am not so sure.

    “Margarito was making Miguel fight at a faster pace than he normally fought at, and in the later rounds I could see Miguel was flagging, he was throwing all the punches and Margarito would run back to his corner at the end of the round with a little smile on his face,” Steward told me in a phone conversation.

    “This is nothing to do with possible loaded handwraps or whatever, he still put on a lot of pressure and he made Miguel burn himself out, and then he exerted his physical advantages over Miguel. That was what I saw in that fight, and this was what I was going to be preparing him for in this fight.

    “In the first fight Miguel would throw combinations, but before he would finish up with the combinations he was, like, retreating, trying to get away, and Margarito would run him on down, get him to throw a lot of punches again — block, block, block — and make him retreat and run him down again.

    “I think Miguel should win, and in the two fights I had with him I think I reactivated his boxing skills, but if he doesn’t hurt him early I think Margarito is going to walk him down, physically and mentally, down the stretch. It’s going to be a compelling fight.”

    In the first fight, I thought that Margarito was beginning to catch Cotto consistently as early as the sixth round. Margarito won rounds seven to 10 inclusive on two judges’ cards, and of course a weary, bloodied Cotto sank to one knee in surrender in the 11th. Margarito looked much the bigger man and I made the note, at ringside: “M. seems impervious to punishment — he walks through everything.”

    Unless Margarito has been severely diminished by the knockout defeat he suffered against Shane Mosley and the drawn-out pounding inflicted by Pacquiao, I think that he stands a good chance of once again overpowering Cotto in the second half of the contest.
     
  7. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    If Cotto pulls it off his new trainer will find a lot of work in boxing. He seems to take a scientific approach to his training writing every down, using spreadsheets, checking recovery time, etc...
     
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    Scientific approach? Writing shit down? Spreadsheets? Recovery time? WHAT THE FUCK?!! It's pretty fucking basic you hit the other guy in the face more than he hits you you win. What the fuck is that guy on? Cotto will lose again because he's too much of a metrosexual homo who won't dig deep when going gets tough cuz he's scared he might break a nail. Margarito is scum and I fucking hate his fucking face with that stupid smile and stupid glasses fag looks like a mexican clark kent but he will win regardless. Cotto will fold like a metrosexual flamer he is.
     
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    I really hope Cotto wins, and I hope he wins more emphatically than the scenario I presented for my pick... I would love to be wrong on that
     
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    And Wolak is losing this fight. Just too one dimensional but I hope he pulls it off somehow the kid is all guts and heart.
     
  11. Jimmy

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    His new trainer seems a keen guy, keeping track of how Cotto is performing on a daily basis. It can only benefit Cotto.
     
  12. Jimmy

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    Cotto's gonna do this guys. He'll of course have moments in this fight where he's under the cosh, but the highs will outweigh the lows.
     
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    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Yeah, I can't stand to look at his disgusting, ugly, sweaty, floppy face and his stupid "mean mug" expressions he pulls. What a cunt.

    A psychopathic, cheating cunt too. I hope he gets beaten into bolivian tonight.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Cotto by decision.
     
  16. jaws1216

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    agreed.
     
  17. ILLUMINATI

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    And he wears women panty girdles
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    If Margarito did have loaded wraps for their fight fight....I pick Cotto to win a unanimous decision 8-4.


    But if Margarito didn't have loaded gloves...he is going to be the same fighter..aggression..aggression and more aggression...iron chin..smiling at Cotto...the only real difference is that eye...and if it swells up or get cut...watch the commission trying to stop it....but if they don't and the punches feel the same to Cotto...it's going to be repeat...
     
  19. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    So yeah..i have two predictions...fuck you...:egypt:
     
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    whatever, coming form the idiot who keeps hyping mediocre fighter because he ''knows'' them, I actually take it as a compliment
     
  21. Ramonza Soliloquies

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    God speed, Junito. Blow that filth's eyesocket out.
     
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    Think i got it exactly right:Lok:
     
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    no, it was TKO10
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Say what?:l1:
     
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    mierda, for real.
     
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