The sport's reputation rests in the hands of AJ...

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  1. Xplosive

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    That might be true, but it's so true that Fury vs Frances never happens in the first place if Dana didn't pay his guys peanuts.
     
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    Francis left because Dana wouldn’t let him box.
     
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    X is Right Though...You KNOW It, You Just Hate to ADMIT It...Mayweather-McGregor/Fury-Ngannou Happened BECAUSE Of Dana White's gREED...The Biggest Star in UFC History Got His BIGGEST Combative Sports Payday Where???...In BOXING...Same w/the Hardest Puncher in UFC History; Biggest Combative Sports Payday was in BOXING...

    ...& the NEXT "Biggest Star in UFC History", Suga Show, Will Follow Suit for the Same Exact Reason...



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    If the Fighters are "Coddled", What EXACTLY is Dana White???:Jest:...Never Ceases to Amaze REED How COOL You Are w/Fighters Repeatedly Taking it UP the Ass, Financially...Not Only is the Money THERE to Be Made, Somebody's Already MAKING It...And it Damn Sure AINT the Fighters...

    But That's ALRIGHT w/You???...




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    Dana White is a crooked, old cunt. The fact he has people - not anyone on here - who defend him is ridiculous. There is literally nothing redeemable about him. The guy is out and out a complete and utter prick.

    I despise Dana White more than literally anyone in the boxing world.
     
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    the sports reputation hasnt been affected by the shit show that is the heavyweight division for decades. if casual simpletons ask me about heavyweight boxing i tell them i boycott that division because it has been awful for 2 plus decades.
     
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    Yeah I think UFC fighters are paid just fine. And they don’t have to fight if they don’t want. There are organizations out there that will pay much more. But like I always say. UFC is not all of MMA. It’s one company that puts fights together with their talent. They had over 1100 employees (much more now), offices all over the world, gyms all over the world, wellness centers. Those places have electricity, internet, medical staff, etc. Lawyers, doctors, trainers, physical therapist all on staff and I’m sure that’s not including tons more that goes into running that type of operation. All those people and things need to get paid with profit from fights. Despite all that, top fighters who bring ratings and sell merch free paid millions. And lesser paid fighters are given showcases to grow their fan base and interest.

    So yeah of course I can justify it. MMA isn’t UFC. And now that UFC is owned by a much bigger company, there are even more options and more opportunities. People can criticize Dana white all they want. Dana white has made UFC one of the biggest names in the world and has grown so much in 20 years, nothing on boxing’s side can compare.

    I would also Challenge undercard fighters pay. Nobody in the UFC fights for under 1000 as do some undercard boxers. Especially if it’s your debut. If you see a UFC fighter getting paid less 1000 for their UFC debut, show me. Pretty sure UFC’s debut pay is between 10k-30k.
     
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    Why because he says fuck and doesn’t take shit?
     
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    Nothing to admit. Nobody is going to let their heavyweight champ go into boxing and he can’t even fill seats in MMA. And then to pretty much want Jon jones to sit on the sidelines while Francis possibly losses in boxing and then try and promote the fight with jones would be a fucking stupid thing to do for any company. How hell do you promote that fight? Francis when he was winning couldn’t fill seats, imagine getting KOed? What happened was a phenomenon that nobody saw coming. And now Francis built is name. Good for him. It was worth it for the UFC to let him go.
     
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    So if you make it through the minor leagues, to get mediocre pay when you make your ufc debut, that justifies taking the chump change % of revenue at the highest level?

    There are no minor leagues in boxing
     
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    Millions is chump change ?
     
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    Absolutely. It's about revenue %
     
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    Which fighters get. The low level guy at the bottom who isnt even on the main card isn’t putting buts in the seat. But he is still getting paid at minimum 10k. Whats boxing low level guy that isn’t even on tv e Main card making ?
     
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    Picture Alvarez selling 950k ppv buys at 80 dollars each and getting "millions" (as in 5 or 6million) :Jest:
     
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    Look it’s cool. We disagree. No big deal. How anyone can see the state of boxing today, today’s state of fighters and think it’s going in the right direction is crazy. Clearly UFC is doing something right. Clearly boxing isn’t. There is nothing this 25 year old company is doing that isn’t better than anything boxing is doing. Including pay on average of all fighters.
     
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    This has been explained many times

    As long as they can continue to stifle any competitors and maintain their monopoly, their model of underpaying their top attractions can continue.
     
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    Those numbers would get well above 10 million. There being said. If canelo worked for a company like the UFC, his next fight would probably be scheduled and against the next top guy. Not his choice.
     
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    So he'd take 1/4 of his current purse?
     
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    Ah, yes stifle. Is the UFC’s fault start up companies paying their fighters tens of millions went under.
     
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    I mean if that’s what your ass told you, cool, because that’s where you pulled that figure.
     
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    Alvarez gets 40+ million per fight
     
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    Just to be clear, boxing is the proper model for fighters pay, correct? Again, minimum ufc fighter gets is 10k. Whats the minimum a pro boxer can get paid? No standard. It could be ten fucking dollars. Fuck off
     
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    Ufc has lowest split among revenue to its athletes of any sport. Nfl, nba, mlb, boxing

    Those sports collective bargaining agreements get renegotiated when a new TV deal is signed
     
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    Dope. And DAZN doesn’t make a profit. And canelo
    Still won’t fight the best.
     
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    Did they have collective bargaining at 25 years old? Are there separate owners In charge of Payment or the NFL? Terrible comparison. Anyways No point in arguing. Im not gonna entertain paying a boxer under 1000 when a ufc fighter makes more than that at the lowest level. You got a handful of fighters that complain and the majority don’t. But I will go back to Joshua and today’s top boxers. All 3 of them. They get paid too much and the more you pay these fighters the less you will get from them.
     
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    No One Said Boxing's a "Proper" Model for Anything, YOU'RE Saying That:Jest:...

    But CATEfuckingGORICALLY, Boxing is CLOSER To Being a "Proper" Fighter Pay Model Than UFC Cares to Be...If It Wasn't, THE Biggest Name in UFC History Could Say His Biggest Fight Purse Came from MMA, Yet He Can't; it Came from the BOXING Model....You're Only Fixated On MINIMUM Fighter Pay Because the MAXIMUM End of This Debate is INARGUABLE...




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    The MLBPA/NBPA/NHLPA can negotiate a 50/50 revenue split, NFLPA can get a 48/52 split

    UFC fighter revenue split is 17/83
     
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    ok
     
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    The newness is the only thing keeping their model as successful. Once these cage fags figure out how to prevent the financial exploitation the ufc will have to adapt
     
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