THEY DID IT! HATTON-MAYWEATHER SIGNED THE CONTRACTS.

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  1. Father of Muzse

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    Then how do you rank Floyd?
     
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  3. Neil

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    not sure what weight/size have to do with this comparison. barrera was never a big featherweight. during his entire time at feather all I heard from his manager was that he could still easily make 122. he certainly didn't have any noticable weight or size advantage over pacquaio when they were in the ring. much like when mayweather and hatton fight there will be no size advantage for mayweather.

    the only differences here are that hatton has never taken any ass whippings thru this point in his career and he is the fresher/hungrier fighter than barrera was.

    barrera had the better resumé and was the more versatile fighter but certainly was more battle worn. he did go on to win another big fight (after pacquio stopped him) but it was against an even more battle worn guy.
     
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    You're attributing too much to freshness.

    I am saying Barrera was simply better than Hatton, but I don't even really like barrera much.

    I've said already, Hatton has a dangerous style for Floyd, so floyd deserves credit if he beats hatton impressively, but not as much credit as Manny demolishing Barrera.

    Cintron is a fresher fighter than Margarito, would you have given Williams more credit if he beat Cintron (when unbeaten) rather than Marge?
     
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  6. Father of Muzse

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    Manny didn't beat MAB because MAB was worn down...he beat him because he simply ran over him. The comments you've made about MAB are true about today's version, but not the Fall 2003 version of MAB.

    Between 2000 (the first Morales fight) and 2003, MAB didn't have one physically draining fight. Even the rematch with Morales, he spent the first 6 rounds or so trying to counterpunch Morales. he didn't take a tremendous amount of punishment that night despite many thinking Morales had done enough to win.

    Even with that said, MAB's perceived ranking at the time was much higher and thought of than what Hatton is now.

    Lastly, MAB had tougher fights simply because he fought MUCH better fighters than Hatton has. Hatton's best win were over two guys past their best days.

    Put it this way, Tszyu and Castillo were more shop worn than MAB was when he faced Pac.

    BTW...Pac REALLY whups MAB's ass this time out. I don't care how good of a training camp MAB has. MAB is older and Pac is better than he was in 2003.
     
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    pacquaio caught morales and barrera at the right time. if the timing/circumstances were different I highly doubt he wouldve went 3-1 (soon 4-1) against them collectively. that's the point.

    I agree with the sentiment above. barrera had certainly NOT had any tough fights between the first morales fight until the pacquaio fight. he'd had some before then however. to me I saw him and morales leave it all in the ring that night. barrera never fought the same after that and lacked the hunger in tough fights after that. you can see that by how he altered his style and how he wanted out of the pacquaio fight and even the juarez and marquez fights at times when he was actually forced to fight.

    hatton is not as slick as barrera but we won't have to worry about a lack of hunger from him when the going gets tough.

    cintron / margarito comparison is ridiculous and hardly worth addressing. cintron has already mailed it in once. how does that prove him as hungrier?
     
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    No he didn't catch barrera at the right time, he probably caught Barrera in the best period of his career.

    Barrera of TODAY is shop worn, not that barrera.
     
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    I'm just glad this fight is happening.

    I'll be the first to say there are questions surrounding Floyd's opposition and semi-retired, mid-30s Dela Hoya is not who I wanted Floyd to end his career fighting.

    I'd like to see Floyd fight Hatton, and the Cotto/Mosley winner before he considers calling it quits. Those would be solid, legacy cementing wins. Paul Williams would be nice too, but I'm not sure the money would ever be right for Floyd.
     
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    younger barrera at 122 was the best barrera up until the first morales fight.
     
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    I had to take a second look to make sure I didn't write this. :lol: I could not agree with this post more. :bears:
     
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    Whether U're a Fraud Groupie or a Hatton Hugger,THIS Is the BOTTOMfuckingLINE:bears: ...

    The FACT that this Fight is even HAPPENING is Bigger than WHO Wins or the Impact it will Have on their Fans...

    REED just Hopes that BOTH Factions will Keep this @ the FOREFRONT of their Minds...


    REED:cool:
     
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    One of the BIGGEST possible fights to be made in boxing. No question. In fact off the top of my head the only fight that would compare is Hopkins vs Calzaghe.
     
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    There should really be no debate about this. It's a mismatch IMO...
     
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    i was hoping floyd would stay retired. i dont care to see his boring ass win another signficant fight.
     
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    Based on how well both draw in their respective countries, it's safe to say that Calzaghe-Kessler is FAR bigger than Hopkins-Calzaghe.

    Add to the fact that HBO only put up $5 million to cover the purses of Hopkins and Wright and the less than capacity crowd...I can't see how you'd say Calzaghe-Hopkins is a bigger fight.
     
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    mayweathers career has certainly provided more excitement than popeye's son the skiier
     
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    As far as I'm concerned, Floyd hasn't been in an exciting fight since the Gatti massacre.
     
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    I guess I was referring to it from a boxing fans point of view, not from a commercial standpoint. I should have been more specific.
     
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    most boxing fans with any sense realize calzaghe vs hopkins is a guaranteed stinker/garbage matchup style-wise...as are 90% of matchups involving hopkins
     
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    to me the judah fight provided more excitement than seeing gatti quit. regardless mayweather has already had many more exciting bouts than joons boy alberto tomba
     
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    The day before my birthday. Floyd stopping Casper in round 10 will make a nice early present. :blobbox:
     
  23. Father of Muzse

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    From a fan point of view Calzaghe vs Kessler STILL trumps Hopkins-Calzaghe.

    Kessler comes forward and looks to fight...Hopkins looks to retreat, hug and punch on the break.

    Calzaghe and Kessler will throw more punches in the first 6 rounds than Hopkins and Wink over the entire 12 rounds.

    There's really no comparison.

    Truth be told, the last time I recall Hopkins being in a fight I enjoyed was the beatdown of Joppy.
     
  24. Father of Muzse

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    I hate Gatti more than I hate Judah...therefore the Gatti fight trumps everything.

    Besides, Floyd was on the offense that night which made it enjoyable. He picked apart Judah over the course of the bout but it wasn't terribly exciting.
     
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    The worst thing about this fight is that Hatton probably had a better chance of winning 2 years ago. Before he became clinch happy, Hatton was an active busy fighter who I thought had the best possible style to beat Floyd (before P.Williams coming out party). Now, Floyd is going to make it difficult for him to get inside............and clinch.

    Hatton probably won't even try to win. It's obvious he likes getting hit a whole lot less than he used to. He'll probably just make a good effort take his check and retire. If any fighter has a good time to exit it's Hatton. He's killing himself making weight, his move up 1/2 division went nearly disastrously wrong, and he's regressed so much it's got to be embarrasing for him. I wouldn't blame Hatton 1 bit if he retired after this fight.
     
  26. Father of Muzse

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    Floyd can easily outbox Hatton, I'd like to see him sit with Ricky and fight a bit. In fact, Hatton's very vulnerable to the body. If Floyd invests in body punching, he could make little Ricky quit.
     
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    Floyd is a very good body puncher. Such a result would be very satisfying
     
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    I can guarantee anyone who's ever posted at any boxing forum that this fight will be like Chavez-Taylor I.

    Mayweather is going to:
    a) be carried out on a stretcher
    b) pissing blood and,
    c) probably won't ever fight again.

    If anyone wishes to disagree with me, then my avatar is up for grabs.

    You heard it here first.
     
  29. Father of Muzse

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    I think you meant like Chavez-Whitaker.

    The alleged "runner" presses the action and has the alleged "aggressor" taking more steps backward and the alleged "aggressor" spends more time with HIS back against the ropes than the alleged "runner."

    I can certainly see that happen.

    Plus, between the two...Floyd's a MUCH better puncher. I'm not certain Hatton can handle Floyd's power.
     
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    I have said before I think Floyd is a fairly underrated puncher, but he does not hit harder than hatton :lol:

    Why don't you ask Castillo who hits harder?

    How on earth can you think Floyd is a "MUCH" better puncher?

    When was the last time Floyd took out a tough fighter like Maussa with ONE shot?

    Castillo said it himself, he'd never been hit like that.
     

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