THIS ENHANCES JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ'S LEGACY

its entertaining, we have a real chemistry for taking opposite takes and badgering each other, this'd be a good way to turn it into a good thing

 

yea, you actually watch live boxing, but carlos doesnt, not even when his beloved hero trinidad fights. what's the fun in that? ::

 

Your boy Bernand Fernandez gets away with it! ::

c

 

In all honesty this thread should be changed to "Pacquiao enhances Marquez's legacy" because even his fanboys DEFINE who Marquez is by his losing efforts against Pacquiao. Nothing else in Marquez's career matters, even to Marquez himself.

 

It's really just about the money. Marquez deserves the cash in hand. He showed the world he's the better fighter, the judges are just damn blind. If you rely solely on the judges you probably also believe Evander Holyfield got a draw against Lennox Lewis.

And it's amazing that you say Casamayor was faded. So I guess Barrera and Morales were in their prime ::

Cupey

 

Geebus you are thick headed Cupey.

I don't want to get into a 2 page debate about why landing 10 more punches but sitting down on the floor 3 times is not "winning" by any sense of the word, but you do know that Barrera was ranked Top 3 or 4 P4P when Pacquiao smoked him right?

 

I believe Katsidis was ranked #1 when Casamayor smoked him.

I've already proven that Marquez landed more total punches on Pacquiao, that can't be denied. He even landed more power punches. Being knockdown is part of the game. One round doesn't decide a fight kid. In the long scope of things Marquez's skill have clearly dominated Pacquiao. Judges are simply bad or on the take.


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:nono: Nate Campbell

And since when have you joined the Joto-quez bandwagon? As far as the Pac-JMM fights, both being close and nobody dominated as you are suggesting. It is a shame Pac is the only one JMM can make coin off of, instead of taking the re after the first fight JMM made one of the worst business moves and fucked himself.

 

Marquez lost to Pacman two times. The first was a hideous roobbery. The second was Pacman winning close but clearly he had no motivation. He destroyed Marquez in the first fight and was robbered. Pac was unmotivated. Marquez lost to Chris John and don't listen to the Marquez Maricones. It was legit.

 

Wow. You bring up a worthless system like Compubox to support your argument of Marquez getting robbed, and then the stats show exactly how close the fights really were.

The first fight shows Marquez outlanding Pacquiao by a whopping margin of 10 overall punches (a 0.8 edge per round), and the second shows Marquez outlanding Pacquiao by an amazing 15 overall punches (a 1.25 edge per round).

Congratulations, you made a shitty argument ever shittier.

 

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Not only that, but when you take into account that Marquez got dropped 4 times (should've been 5 times) through 24 rounds, it's laughable to think that Marquez nuthuggers still think Pac isn't the better fighter (even if the difference is slight).

 

Now, since you feel the compubox numbers are shit, what should we rely on to make are argument? The judges--you've got to be kidding me. How about writer and reporters. Guaranteed you'll find more people felt Marquez won. Tell me how you are making your argument so we can discuss, otherwise crawl back into your hole with Alabama

Cupey

 

i doubt cupey's even seen a single katsidis fight let alone both pac-marquez fights. the last fight he watched live was probably jones-trinidad. oh wait, you didn't see that one either.

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He had one big round and then was completely schooled 8 rounds. Pacquiao was KTFO by Russtico Torrecampo and Medgoen Singsurat. Don't believe the Pac nut huggers, it was legit.

Cupey

 

I'm the only person on this board that can analyze any fight with out actually seeing it. So step back son. :fightme:::

Cupey

 

The Compubox numbers over 12 rounds show an average difference of under 5 punches between the two fighters with Pac throwing more. That's why he won the 2nd fight. I thought he won the first fight too, but a draw is fine with me.

 

He won the second fight because he missed more punches than Marquez? I'm not sure how that makes you a winner in any fight.

cupey

 

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You go by the 10 point must system and who won more rounds. Both fights were very close and could have gone either way.

No robbery on either of them.

 

Pacquiao won the second fight because he scored a knockdown on JMM remember?

that's all it takes. Fuck the rest of the rounds. One knockdown and he wins. fucking awesome! :hammert:

 

That sounds like Calzaghe-Hopkins too.

I wish I didnt have to agree with you, but the Pacquioa hype is a bit rich,...especially if anybody wants to attempt to 'put Marquez in his place',... it's like using Jose Luis Castillo to prop up Floyd Mayweather.

 

Spoken like a true Pacquiao fan- FUCKING STUPID. You criticized the compubox nmbers as support for my claims, but then you provide no proof to support your claim. It's clear that Marquez more won rounds. Ray Charles could have scored that fight. Marquez won a close but clear decision and was robbed.

Cupey

 

That sounds about right for Pacquiao fans. No need to score other rounds. The one trick pony gets schooled like a 1st grader, misses more punches than Marquez, but he wins because he scored a knockdown, or because Marquez walked to the wrong corner. :doh:

Cupey

 

There's no "proof" to provide on how one scores a fight.

I don't even think Pacquiao won the rematch. However, a 114-113 fight, when there are a couple close rounds, is NOT a robbery. 114-113 Marquez is probably the most common scorecard and even then, I bet most people would say that there was a round they scored for JMM that could've been a Pac round.

Lewis-Holyfield I is a robbery. Sturm-De La Hoya is a robbery. The Pacquiao-Marquez fights are not robberies no matter what your ugly obese ass would like to and provide "proof" of because of Blockhead's whopping 10 punch advantage on Compucrap.

Must you troll on your own site to create forum traffic?

 

Just proves again you are a tard. You say most people had it for Marquez. The compubox numbers support a Marquez victory. Yet somehow it wasn't a robbery. :atu: Sure it was a close fight, but Marquez won and the evidence even you've provided supports my claim. So feel free to shoot yourself now.

Cupey

 

Cupey needs that banner revenue to come in. ::

 

Actually I'm trying to discourage ignorant Pacquiao fans from wasting our bandwidth.

Cupey

 

Yes, many people had Marquez by one point or two. And I'm sure most of them would say there was a close round in there. I doubt many of them would claim that Marquez got robbed, even though they had Marquez narrowly ahead. A very close win does not make a robbery.

Compucrap means fuck all. Did Oscar land 260 punches on Tito, and 120 on Mayweather? Did he get hit by 160 punches by Tito, or 220 by Mayweather? I never use it as "evidence" one way or the other, but I laughed at the fact that you would try to use it as evidence to your robbery argument, when those (meaningless) stats are very close.

You want "evidence" and "proof" on an opinion? How ridiculous and stupid are you? Your incompetence has ruined the promise of a website that could've been great, and then you insult the remaining members who actually contribute to the forums.

Fuck you, and may you be sodomized repeatedly by Magic Johnson and Tommy Morrison.

 

Eric you are a champ::

 

You really shouldn't speak anymore because you really are a completely fucking tard. Jaws calling you a champ simply proves my case.

The fight was close, but if 9 out of 10 people think Marquez won then he was fucking robbed. The rounds were close, the people who think Marquez won wasn't. That's a robbery.

Compubox is simply a statistic I'm using. Just like questioning most media they would say Marquez won the fight. I'm not a fan of Compubox and everybody knows it's not very accurate. It's some retard sitting at ringside pressing a button. Still, using it as a resource rather then making claims that Pacquiao won because Pacquio knocked Marquez down, or Marquez walked to the wrong corner is logical. Stupid dumb Pacquiao fans like you and Alabama simply crap on the sport with your ignorance. DIE BITCH DIE.

Cupey