Yeah ok, pal. In no way shape or form is a security agent in a building like that going to allow ANYONE access into the building without some kind of identification. If George Bush comes to the building where I work, the secuity is told in advance, and then even he has to have the proper authorization to enter. I know this from expierience. This isn't fucking wall mart in bumblefuck, you moron. This is the financial district in new york. Do you know how much demolition has to be done to place charges on support beams in a building? Have you ever been in a high security building? Have you ever even been in a medium security building? I'm the retard because I provide first hand accounts as you show videos made by clueless teenagers? Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? At least admit to that much. That has to be the case, because you're proven wrong time and time again. You are the one that needs to get a clue. Give it a fucking rest. You are beyond stupid. But it's ok, Lambchop. Keep being absolutely predictable.
O'neill work for a company called Kroll Inc.. Securacom didn't have a contract at the WTC after 1998 and even before then they weren't the major security contractor. Nice try.
Dude .. even Bush's own Mama was quoted as saying her son was in charge in her own fucking book. :kick: Second , bombs would need to be planted BEFORE the "attack" don't you think ? I'm sure it wasn't the night before. And as for connections ... This was published about it a while back ------ According to two articles in the Progressive Populist written by Margie Burns, from 1993 to 2000, Bush served on the board of Securacom (since renamed Stratesec). The chairman of the board of Stratesec is Wirt D. Walker III, a cousin of Marvin and George W. Bush. Securacom had contracts to provide security for Dulles International Airport (the airport from which American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, originated) and the World Trade Center in New York. Securacom's backers include a number of Kuwaitis through a company called KuwAm Corp (Kuwaiti-American Corp.). Stratesec also has Saudi investors. Walker also serves as a managing director of KuwAm, which maintains offices within the Watergate complex along with Riggs Bank, on whose board Bush's uncle, Jonathan Bush, sits. Saudi Princess Haifa al Faisal, the wife of Saudi Ambassador to the US Prince Bandar, used a Riggs account to funnel money to Omar al Bayoumi and Osama Basnan, two Saudi students in California associated with two of the 911 hijackers.
Securacom got the $8.3 million World Trade Center security contract in October 1996 and received about $9.2 million from the WTC job from 1996 (a quarter of its revenues that year) to 1998. But in 1998, the company was "excused from the project" because it could not fulfill the work, according to former manager Al Weinstein, and the electronic security work at the WTC was taken over by EJ Electric, a larger contractor. http://www.washingtonspectator.com/articles/20050215bushes_3.cfm From the SEC: Revenues decreased by 45% from $12.1 million in 1997 to $6.6 million in 1998. The decrease was due to the closeout of the World Trade Center Project. http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1037453/0000925328-99-000032.txt And I thought you said O'Neill worked for Securacom?
Vol. 9, No. 2021 - The American Reporter - January 20, 2003 SECRECY SURROUNDS A BUSH BROTHER'S ROLE IN 9/11 SECURITY by Margie Burns Washington, D.C. WASHINGTON, Jan 19, 2003 -- A company that provided security at New York City's World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C., and to United Airlines between 1995 and 2001, was backed by a private Kuwaiti-American investment firm with ties to a brother of President Bush and the Bush family, according to records obtained by the American Reporter. Two planes hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001 were United Airlines planes, and another took off from Dulles International Airport; two, of course, slammed into the World Trade Center. But the Bush Administration has never disclosed the ties of a presidential brother and the Bush family with the firm that intersected the weapons and targets on a day of national tragedy. Marvin P. Bush, a younger brother of George W. Bush, was a principal in the company from 1993 to 2000, when most of the work on the big projects was done. But White House responses to 9/11 have not publicly disclosed the company's part in providing security to any of the named facilities, and many of the public records revealing the relationships are not public. Nonetheless, public records reveal that the firm, formerly named Securacom, listed Bush on its board of directors and as a significant shareholder. The firm, now named Stratesec, Inc., is located in Sterling, Va., a suburb of Washington, D.C., and emphasizes federal clients. Bush is no longer on the board. Marvin Bush has not responded to repeated telephoned and emailed requests for comment on this story. The American Stock Exchange delisted Stratesec's stock in October 2002. Securacom also had a contract to provide security at Los Alamos National Laboratories, notorious for its security breaches and physical and intellectual property thefts. According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down." Yet instead of being investigated, the company and companies involved with it have benefited from legislation pushed by the Bush White House and rubber-stamped by Congressional Republicans. Stratesec, its backer KuwAm, and their corporate officers stand to benefit from limitations on liability and national-security protections from investigation provided in bills since 9/11. HCC Insurance Holdings, Inc., a reinsurance corporation on whose board Marvin Bush sat as director until November 2002, similarly benefits from terrorism insurance protections. (Bush's first year on the board at HCC coincided with his last year on the board at Stratesec.) HCC, formerly Houston Casualty Company, carried some of the insurance for the World Trade Center. It posted a loss for the quarter after the attacks of Sept. 11 and dropped participation in worker's compensation as a result. Bush remains an adviser to the chairman and the Board of Directors, as well as a member of the company's investment committee. The former CEO of Stratesec is Wirt D. Walker III, who is still chairman of the board. Although he has also been the managing director of KuwAm for several years, Walker states definitively in phone interviews that there was no exchange of talent between Stratesec and KuwAm during the World Trade Center and other projects. As Walker put it, "I'm an investment banker." He continued, "We just owned some stock." The investment company "was not involved in any way in the work or day-to-day operations" of the security company. He explained clearly and pleasantly that there was no sharing of information or of personnel between the two companies. In December 2000 - when the outcome of the U.S. presidential election was determined - Stratesec added a government division, providing "the same full range of security systems services as the Commercial Division," the company says. Stratesec now has "an open-ended contract with the General Services Administration (GSA) and a Blanket Purchase Agreement (A) with the agency that allows the government to purchase materials and services from the Company without having to go through a full competition." The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites." In 2000, the U.S. Army accounted for 29 percent of the company's earned revenues, or about $6.9 million. The White House opposed an independent commission to investigate 9/11 until after the terrorism insurance protections and protections for security companies had safely passed Congress. It has also quietly intervened in lawsuits against United Airlines in New York, brought by relatives of the victims. Marvin Bush joined Securacom's Board of Directors in 1993, as part of new management hired when the company separated from engineering firm Burns and Roe. The new team was capitalized by KuwAm, the D.C.-based Kuwaiti-American investment company. Bush also served on the Board of Directors at KuwAm, along with Mishal Yousef Saud al-Sabah, Chairman of KuwAm and also a Director on Securacom's (Stratesec's) board. The World Trade Center and the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority - which operates Dulles - were two of Securacom's three biggest clients in 1996 and 1997. (The third was MCI, now WorldCom.) Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards. When, following the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey began its multi-million-dollar, multiyear revamping of security in and around the Twin Towers and Buildings 4 and 5, Securacom was among numerous contractors hired in the upgrade. The companies doing security jobs received due mention in print, in security industry publications and elsewhere. The board membership of a son of former President Bush went unnoticed, at least in print. According to SEC filings, Securacom/Stratesec acquired the $8.3 million World Trade Center contract in October 1996. The project generated 28 percent of all revenues for the company in 1996. SEC filings indicate that revenues from the World Trade Center project commenced in 1996 at $1.6 million, peaked in 1997 at $6.6 million ($4.1 million in the first half), and diminished in 1998 to less than $1 million. A key concept in security is "access control." In hindsight, as the security industry's reportage on the World Trade Center precautions makes clear, further attacks would have to come from the air. Unfortunately, such detailed reports did not convey that message at home. Nobody thought outside the box enough to deduce that a jumbo jet could overcome even the extraordinary controls at the World Trade Center. With 20-20 hindsight, it is obvious that the intricate procedures in the building's lobbies and on its perimeters were useless in trying to stop a 767 loaded with jet fuel. Barry McDaniel, CEO of the company since January 2002, declines on security grounds to give specific details about work the company did at the World Trade Center. According to McDaniel, the contract was ongoing (a "completion contract"), and "not quite completed when the Center went down." The company designed a system, but - as he points out - that obviously "didn't have anything to do with planes flying into buildings." The key words "access control" are less feeble and irrelevant, however, in regard to airports and airlines. Had the hijackers failed on the ground, they would have lost their airborne weapon. Two of the hijacked planes were United Airlines planes, and another took off from Dulles International. Two hit the Twin Towers, leading to a collapse of both buildings that killed nearly 3,000 people. McDaniel makes clear that Securacom's contract with United Airlines was a single-site contract, in Indianapolis (at least five years ago), and not local. The work was finished several years before he joined the board, and was not in or near Washington. The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves. Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized. As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer."
In this context, retired FAA special agent Brian F. Sullivan is angry, and eloquent. "You can have all the security systems in the world, but the people behind the systems make the difference." The Bush administration, says Sullivan, "spit in the faces" of the victims' families, in pushing for last-minute protections for foreign-owned security companies (in the Homeland Security bill). Sullivan points out that "not one single person" in an upper-level position has lost a job as a result of 9/11, "not in the FBI, CIA, FAA, DOT." As he sums up, "No accountability, no progress." Stratesec got its first preventive maintenance contract with Dulles Airport in 1995, generating $0.3 million that year. The Dulles project generated revenue of $1.2 million in 1996, $2.5 million in 1997, and $2.3 million in 1998, accounting for 22% of the company's revenues in 1996 and in 1998 Like other specialists, Professor Dale B. Oderman of Purdue University's aviation technology department, concurs that Dulles "was considered a very high profile target" as the primary international airport near the nation's capital. It serves as port of entry to about 15 international airlines as well as serving eight of the 11 major us passenger carriers. In comparison, Reagan Airport hosts only Air Canada from outside the U.S., and Baltimore-Washington Airport hosts about a half dozen." Stratesec did not handle screening of passengers at Dulles. According to a contracting official for the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority, its three-year contract was for maintenance of security systems: It maintained the airfield access system, the CCTV (closed circuit television) system, and the electronic badging system. In 1997, the World Trade Center and Dulles accounted for 55 percent and 20 percent of the company's earned revenues, respectively. The World Trade Center and Dulles projects figured largely in both Securacom's growing revenues from 1995 to 1997 and its decreases from 1997 to 1998. Stratesec continued to refer to "New York City's World Trade Center" as a former client through April 2001. It listed Dulles Airport and United Airlines as former clients through April 2002. As with the World Trade Center - which also had electronic badging, security gates, and CCTV - the ultimate problem with Dulles' security controls was not the controls themselves, but that they could be sidestepped. All the hijackers had to do was buy a ticket. As former FAA special agent Sullivan comments, "If they [attackers] knew about the security system, they knew how to bypass it." One obvious question for investigators is how much potential hijackers could have known about the security system. From 1993 to 1999, KuwAm - the Kuwait-American Corporation -- held a large and often controlling interest in Securacom. In 1996, KuwAm Corporation owned 90 percent of the company, either directly or through partnerships like one called Special Situations Investment Holdings and another called "Fifth Floor Company for General Trading and Contracting." KuwAm owned 31 percent of Securacom in 1998 and 47 percent of Stratesec in 1999. It currently holds only about 205,000 shares of Stratesec; Walker, KuwAm's managing director, holds 650,000. Marvin Bush was reelected annually to Securacom's board of directors from 1993 through 1999. His final reelection was on May 25, 1999, for July 1999 to June 2000. Throughout, he also served on the company's Audit Committee and Compensation Committee, and his stock holdings grew during the period. Directors had options to purchase 25,000 shares of stock annually. In 1996, Bush acquired 53,000 shares at 52 cents per share. Shares in the 1997 IPO sold at $8.50. Records since 2000 no longer list Bush as a shareholder. Stratesec and KuwAm were and still are intertwined at the top. Walker, while a principal at Stratesec (a director since 1987, chairman of the board since 1992, and formerly CEO since 1999), was also on the board of directors at KuwAm and is still managing director (both since 1982). Mishal Yousef Saud Al Sabah, the chairman at KuwAm, also served on Stratesec's board from 1991 to 2001. Walker and Al Sabah had major stock holdings in each other's companies. The sons of both also held shares in the two companies. Stratesec, which currently lists 45 employees, hired KuwAm for corporate secretarial services in 2002, at $2,500 per month. For several years, Walker has also been chairman and CEO of an aircraft company, Aviation General, about 70 percent owned by KuwAm. The Saudi Arabian embassy, the Kuwait embassy, and KuwAm have office suites in the Watergate complex, where both Stratesec and Aviation General held their annual shareholders' meetings in 1999, 2000, and 2001. Bush was reelected to his annual board position there, across the hall from a Saudi Arabian Airlines office. (This year, the companies' shareholders meetings switched to the fifth floor, in space also leased by Saudis and Kuwaitis.) Incidentally, Saudi Princess Haifa Al-Faisal had her checking account at Riggs Bank, which has a large branch in the Watergate. Given that Jonathan Bush, the president's uncle, is a Riggs executive, it is difficult to understand any obstacle for American authorities pursuing the recently reported "Saudi money trail." The princess's charitable activities were processed through Riggs, but attention focused on the Saudis seems not to extend to the politically-connected bank they used. McDaniel was asked in a brief telephone interview whether FBI or other agents have questioned him or others at Stratesec about the company's security work in connection with 9/11. The concise answer: "No." Asked the same question regarding KuwAm, Walker declined further comment, and referred a reporter to the public record. According to a spokesman in an FBI regional office, since October 2001, "the investigation [of 9/11] is being coordinated at the national level, directly from the White House." If so, you'd think that an administration that could seriously consider infiltrating American mosques would ask a few questions closer to home. But the suggestion is inescapable that any investigation into security arrangements preceding 9/11, at some of the nation's most sensitive facilities, has been impeded to this day by narrowly political concerns in the White House. Margie Burns is a Texas native who now writes from Washington, <!-- user agent=Mozilla/5.0 (windows; u; windows nt 5.1; en-us; rv:1.0.2) gecko/20030208 netscape/7.02 stumbleupon/1.87 -->
Companies that Provided Security at the World Trade Center A company named Stratesec had an ongoing contractor to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down" according to CEO Barry McDaniel. The company, formerly named Securacom, acquired an $8.3 million World Trade Center contract in October 1996, according to SEC filings. The company also provided security for Dulles International Airport and United Airlines between 1995 and 2001. Two of the commandeered flights on September 11th were United Airlines', and one took off from Dulles. [SIZE=-1]<SUP>1 </SUP>[/SIZE] <SUP></SUP> Marvin P. Bush, brother of George W. Bush, was a principal in the company between 1993 and 2000. A private Kuwaiti-American investment firm with ties to the Bush family was one of the company's backers. In the company's own words, Stratesec has "an open-ended contract with the General Services Administration (GSA) and a Blanket Purchase Agreement (A) with the agency that allows the government to purchase materials and services from the Company without having to go through a full competition." It promotes its services to clients such as the armed services and Department of Justice for projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites." The role of Stratesec in providing security to the targets of the September 11th attacks has apparently not been investigated. Asked if FBI or other agents had questioned anyone at Stratesec about the company's security work in connection with the 9/11 attack, CEO Barry McDaniel said no.
Suspicious Security Lapses in the Twin Towers Preceding the Attacks An article in New York Newsday documented the removal of bomb-sniffing dogs just five days before the attack. <TABLE class=anon_quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=8 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=quote><ANON_QUOTE>September 12, 2001 The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday, bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. "Today was the first day there was not the extra security," Coard said. "We were protecting below. We had the ground covered. We didn't figure they would do it with planes. There is no way anyone could have stopped that." Security guard Hermina Jones said officials had recently taken steps to secure the towers against aerial attacks by installing bulletproof windows and fireproof doors in the 22nd-floor computer command center... [SIZE=-1]<SUP>1 </SUP> [/SIZE] </ANON_QUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Security Provided by Company Linked to Bush Family Security for the World Trade Center on 9/11/01 was provided by Stratesec, a company in which George W. Bush's brother Marvin was a past principal, and which was backed by a Kuwaiti-American investment firm.
Hmmmmm, that's sketchy at best. They were not running the security @ the WTC at the time of the attacks like you said. John O'Neill did not work for them like you said.
I didn't say he worked for them ... I SAID ... Also this was a discussion about how they got bomb in the building and my comment about having the right connections ... THIS WOULD OF COURSE PRECEED 9/11 God only knows how they got past the doormen and janitor's ... that question will go down in history as unsolvable.
BTW ...You'll note I followed that statement up with \\ Note I did not say he took over FOR Securacom. At no time did I state he worked for them. :nono: He worked for the FBI and his story preceeding 9/11 is a very interesting one ... you ought to read up on it. I'll bet he would think differently than you about the players in this crime. EDIT ... let me clarify because I know it will be nitpicked otherwise ... as I stated before ... he worked for the FBI counter terrorism unit , investigating Bin Laden BEFORE 9/11 and left that job complaining of his efforts being obstructed. My guess is , they didn't need him finding out and exposing the Bin Laden Scapegoat smokescreen.
Why would you phrase it like that if that's not what you meant? What was the "that's what I thought" supposed to mean? Kroll Inc had the security contract for the WTC.
Actually I have read it and it is indeed interesting. He thought that terrorists were going to try to "finish the job" that they started in 1993. As for the Securacom thing, you said that "a bush" was in charge of security, which was wrong as I pointed out.
THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE CAN BELIEVE A CRASH PULVERIZES A WHOLE PLANE AND IT'S BLACK BOX AND A PASS PORT THAT ONE OF THE PASSENGERS HAD IS FOUND DOWN THE STREET AND STILL RECOGNIZABLE, those same people that believe this are questioning the plausibility of other peoples beliefs. FUCKIN AMAZING If you have connections to the firm that provides security for the building, how is it hard to allow groups of people in and just claim they engineers, plumbers, any thing, this is hard because.opcorn:
Bullshit. You would not have put in the "thats what I thought" if that was not what you were saying. Caught up in your own shit man. You cant have it both ways petre.
Because Up to Sept 10 , it was Securacom in charge ... this was confirmed by Barry McDaniel their CEO. I don't care what disinfo or revisionism you drag up. Kroll Inc was not in charge prior to 9/11 and good Ole Johnny was done away with or you can bet he'd have a few words about Bin Laden whom a year later Bush said was unimportant.
You fuckers need to learn english and stop being nit pickin bitches. What part of NO don't you understand ... I knew what it meant a 1 years old. :kick:
The part that sucks the most, is Petre is a mod. He can edit his post your post with the quote in it. You cant even quote his shit to keep it safe from changing. He can edit it all and never leave an edit trace. Meaning it wont say this post was edited by so and so. I am not saying Petre did that, i will just say that he CAN. The way he worded his explination does not add up.
People need to be given given clearance. They are given temporary passes that only allow them in certain areas. If I want to go to the bathroom, there's four different checkpoints. The whole process of obtaining something like that took me, a full time employee, two months. You two really need to go to a high security building for once in your lives.
We were talking about connections ... having the right ones . The HE WAS IN CHARGE was a slight embellishment. Quit nit picking. I never said he walked the beat in the towers with a gun and a flashlight either. :warning:
Lord knows even with security cameras turned off and bomb sniffing dogs removed PRIOR to 9/11 ... they'd never make it past the doorman. :doh:
You know what Godfather ... Don't put on me , something that you'd do. I've never edited a post EVER to win an debate/arguement and I've had a more than anyone on this board , usually with 10 guys at a time. Take that shit and shove it back up your ass.
The same clearance a plumbing crew or maintenance crew gets. whiche is why I said they can be cleared as some group like that.:doh: Those HELLO MY NAME IS stickers are hard to come by for you guys huh.
