Thomas Hearns vs Chris Eubank at 160lbs

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  1. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Dude...I don't care about "catching shit". That's irrelevant. I stand by my positions and whoever disagrees with them..that's cool as long as they have a good counter-argument. We can't all agree. I'm not here to be popular and neither should you be.

    Back to your post. THE POINT IS...Floyd had never shown the tendency to duck a challenge. He retired after Oscar and became very inactive...but that's not the same as deliberately avoiding challenges. Up until Oscar he was fighting everyone he could. After Oscar he seemed to lose interest in the sport somewhat (by his own admission).

    Shit happens.

    My point is not that Ray Leonard and Oscar were of teh same challenge, my point is I see no reason why Floyd would have ducked Leonard since Floyd wasn't an overprotected fighter that fought nobodies consistently (Like a Eubank for example).

    You have no basis for your argument either.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Mayweather's time after 135 does NOTHING to show that he was a brave risk-taker. I know you would really, really like that to be so, but it doesn't.

    I, like most reasonable and objective folks, don't have any issues with Floyd in the early part of his career....he took on the best available challenges. But when considering the move to 140 and above and how his career unfolded from then on...there is no real reason to assume he would have jumped to face the likes of Leonard or Hearns at 147. More likely...he would have waited until after the Leonard-Hearns fight see how the landscape looked before making his move up.

    And of course you care when you are called on shit. Your reaction to it shows that. It is funny to see how you like to portray yourself as opposed to how you actually act.
     
  3. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    I spat out my drink at this one! :lol: You can be funny at times, who would have known?
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    You can try to paint me as being like you as a biased and agenda-based poster, but it's just not true. But yet again....it's not like the truth is ever your first option. Or second, or third....
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    What the fuck is Floyd doing in this thread? Anyway, Eubanks UD

    MTF
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Dela was ALREADY on the Downside of his Career, Brother Sly....But Even @ his Peak, Dela was a Faaaaaar Cry from Ray Leonard...Nobody that DUCKS Pacquiao is Gonna Go OUT of his Way to Face a PRIME Ray Leonard @ Ray Leonard's BEST Weight, No Less...



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    Again, Floyd is DUCKING Pac, yet he'd JUMP @ the Chance to Face a Prime Ray Leonard???



    REED:scratcher:
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Absolutely. There is nothing that actually happened in Mayweather's career that suggests he'd be willing to jump to 147 to take on a prime Leonard.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    You'd have a better chance of seeing Mickey Ward give Pernell Whitaker technical pointers than Floyd step in the ring with a prime Leonard.

    Floyd would have ducked Pryor also.

    Sly is delusional.
     
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    Floyd is ducking pac? :scratcher:

    Pre-first retirement (De La Hoya) Floyd tried to avoid tough fights?:scratcher:

    All a y'all are crazy.
     
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    Well the Barry Hearn/Frank Warren promoted and protected Floyd of myth would certainly have ducked Pryor or Leonard. This I do not disagree with. The Real life version however...different story.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Um, yes.

    And stop trying to sound like a Southern American, you're an English guy in Canada, you tool :lol:
     
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    Yes...When the REALITY of Facing Pacquiao Set In, Floyd INTRODUCED Unprecedented Demands to the Game, which has PREVENTED the Bout from Happening...UNTIL Pacquiao Started Walking Thru (Some) Guys More Impressively than Floyd had, he (Floyd) DIDN'T Give a Fuck about Random Drug Testing...

    But SINCE then, it's Been Floyd's EXCUSE to STALL the Fight that will DEFINE his Career (1 Way or the Other)...

    That's Called "Ducking", Homey...



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    I doubt Floyd would have fought Pryor, but thats somewhat debatable.

    But if you HONESTLY believe Floyd would have moved up to 147 and fought a prime Ray (or Duran for that matter), then you're a bigger Floyd dick rider than we previously thought.
     
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    That's a scary thought. :lol:
     
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    That's fair. Floyd introducing the drugs thing was unprecedented. But I wouldn't call it ducking. Ducking would be if it was a guarantee that Pac would refuse it. Who knew pac would refuse it.

    For example..when Bowe offered Lennox a 10% share of the purse, THAT was ducking because it was a guarantee that Lennox would refuse that...but asking for a drug test, although "unprecedented" wouldn't guarantee that the other part wouldn't accept. It's not like he asked for 70-30 split or something ludicrous. Mosley accepted the tests etc.
     
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    I could never be a "bigger Floyd dick rider than y'all previously thought". I think Floyd is among the best fighters that I've seen...y'all don't. This qualifies me as a "nuthugger", "dickrider" on this forum...to use fightbeat logic. I accept the label and own it. I'm resolute in my position. I saw greatness i Floyd (as a fighter) since the Emanuel Burton fight actually. I haven't been proven wrong yet.

    Floyd is brave and would have had the audacity to challenge Leonard no doubt. Seeing Ray lose to Duran would have given him a glimmer of hope.

    Floyd only suffers with the fans of today because he fights today. Put that talent in the 80s and he commands the same reverence as the Fab four.
     

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