TODAY IS THE DAY -FB SALE

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I was not aware of this request or I possibly overlooked it. We would certainly appreciate your help here. We will ensure that the new owners give you access to whatever you need or I will do it myself tonight.

Cupey

 

My offer still stands...

TFK

 

You've got an e-mail Cupey. Read it at your own peril. ::

I was hoping to keep this off the boards for today at least, but oh well, I'll put it out there now.

I will say Cupey was more then helpful in trying to get this done on our end. Much more so then I had expected. I thought this would get drawn out, but Cupey stepped up in a timely manner to the point I started to question my own motivations.

I wanted to be patient and possibly put a full team together before committing to anything but it just didn't work out and seemed too much to take on for both Buddy and myself..........at least to take it in the ambitious direction I envisioned.

I decided we were biting off more then we could chew and hopefully another party will step forward to save and evolve FightBeat to the potential I personally think it has if in the right hands.

My initial offer of financial help and continuing image content usage in return for a stake in FightBeat still stands from the FB Status Update thread ( http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32493&page=2 Post #59) and is negotiable for anybody who buys this site and I believe has a sound plan. If not for the initial buy, but maybe to cover some start up costs and give the perception of already having some advertisers for prospective ad clients. I'd also have plenty of ideas to pass on if input is wanted............as Buddy Rydell is already painfully aware of. ::

I'd only be interested in a minority stake and a low key affiliation with the site however. Somebody else who is ambitious, has the time and the vision, needs to take the lead in the areas of web design, lead ownership, webhost transfers, etc...

I think I've learned a lot from this. I'm genuine in saying Cupey was helpful, even if I was giving the vibe of being impatient in talking about this to others on the site through PM's, e-mails or whatever. I'm confident Cupey has made the moves to get this done quick if neccessary. I had a ton of questions for him regarding the website, and eventually he did answer most, if not all of them.

I'd like to thank Buddy Rydell. He listened to my cockamamie ideas and agreed to partner up and play this out with me. In the end it was me who put the kibosh on putting in a competing bid. It wasn't the money, It wasn't Cupey that held us up. It was my own doubts about following through on what I wanted for FightBeat and living up to my ambitions for it at the expense of my already existing business and my family.

Buddy was ready and willing to hand over 500 bucks (I think I could have gotten more from him ::) and also share the majority burden and labor of maintaining the website (the most important gesture to me) based on a fairly short phone conversation I had with him and some long rambling PM's I sent pitching my ideas. In the end he was only waiting for me to say "Yes" to him and he would have tried to get it done to the best of his ability.........at the expense of both his wallet, and time spent with his family.

I don't know Buddy that well outside of our acquaintanceship at Secondout, FightBeat, etc.. and our paths rarely crossed in the various subjects we discussed and I even busted his balls on occasion to amuse myself..... but Buddy's an honest, stand up guy who I learned you only need his word to count on if needed. He gave his word to me and that meant a lot, even if things didn't work out in the end.

I'd also like to thank all the others at FightBeat who came out of the woodwork offering financial help, legal help and resources to try and get this done. I think we could have made Cupey rich if we wanted to ::, but unfortunately things didn't work out.

My own doubts may have gotten the best of me and I wasn't willing to make a leap of faith. I've got enough anxiety already. I think I'm burnt out already and I haven't even done anything...........no wonder Cupey disappears for months on end. ::

.......and to be perfectly honest, I wasn't looking for a "labor of love". I thought this could be financially viable with the right plan and the right people in place. Ah well, maybe I'll try and get into the internet porn business.

In conclusion.

Later, and Fuck you all!!!

Nobleart's back bitches!!!!

Nah, you're all nice guys I'm sure.






Bitches! :fightme:

 

Damn, I just realized I used 5 :: smilies in one post.



What a douche! :nono:

 

Well TKO, I don't know how much $100 in ownership, but I certainly think it's nice of you to offer your MMA expertise to help the site. I hope something can be worked out where you become a regular contributor.

Cupey

 

Here is the funny thing at the moment. We have enough people with the funds to make this happen. All we need now is a list of people and what they can contribute. They don't have to be owners, just contributors. Not everyone is asking for the responsibility of ownership. I want to help make this happen. Maybe we should start a thread asking people to step up. Buddy, Noble, Punk, TKO and others have offered something financially. Money is there, now we need help.

Cupey

 

also note. I'm willing to stay on as a technical adviser until your find someone to do the job. I'm just not going to disappear. It's not an easy task. But I can help with some of the basics until you get a better grip of things.

Cupey

 

Noble- you are a fucking coward...

MTF :bears:

 

Maybe it needs to be 4 or 5 of us altogether, and we'd definitely get Cupey to show us the technical aspects. That way a number of us can pitch in at different times. I just don't want this to be a case of "too many cooks spoil the soup". I really do want to keep the board running for everyone here because we have a good mix of forum personalities, and I do have a certain amount of appreciation for the time I spend here talking with others.

 

I agree. There are a few technical snafus that you need to learn about. Actually publishing work isn't bad because it's like an online version of Microsoft Word. However, it's not a perfect system. I will have to write down the details so that anybody can do it.

Cupey

 

Yes, Noble has kept me informed totally. I will be travelling for about 4 hours today, but I'll be checking my emails tonight. If we can get something together, you guys should email me and cc each other.

RDavidLeeder@gmail.com

Let me know if we think we can get something working. :bears:

 

If someone else snaps it up, that's great too as long as the forum stays up. I'd hate to see the forum and its members just show up one day and the place be all "404 Not Found" or whatever.

 

If an existing member ends up buying the site, I'm willing to help out with anything you guys may need help with. Not sure what that would be, but I'm just throwing it out there incase there is anything I can do to help the site.

 

Buddy and Noble, I cite this as proof of the claims I made in PMartie:

 

What claim is this? That people are willing to help?

 

Yep. I'm willing to as well if someone else buys the place. If I end up being part of the team, I'll give what time I can to help out because I don't want the place to just go away.

 

From my perspective it comes down to this.

We need somebody, preferably a skilled webmaster/designer who is also good at dealing with people, who's willing to take the bull by the horns, make this a passion of his and let us all jump on his/her back in supporting positions. Somebody who can take directions in implementing many of our ideas creatively within the framework of the site, and also be able to give directions when needed, and have the time to spare to do this on a consistent basis.

They wouldn't even need to put any money into the pot financially. Their value will be in the labor involved. Their % stake in the site can be written in for when/if the site starts generating revenue. If anybody steps forward we can trust willing to do this, the stake would be negotiated at that time. Their incentive to help FightBeat grow financially, just as with anybody else who has a stake in the site, it would be directly tied in to the success of FightBeat.

Problem is, I'm not sure there's anybody like this in FightBeatLand willing to do this. It's basically a full commision job with a lot of responsibility and zero initial pay. They'd have to really love boxing and have a belief this could eventually be successful for them.

It's the position that could make or break the site.

Getting writers is easy, everybody wants to be published and press passes can be dangled as compensation. Press releases can be used as content, etc., etc.. There's plenty of fan boys on the internet that can be recruited at little or no cost that can provide lots of content for us also. Hell, we could all become opinion columnists if we want. We are a bunch of smart fuckers. Got some dumb fuckers, but they get hits to. Sometimes even more.

Then again, here I am getting too ambitious for my own good again, and at the same time really wanting to keep a low key, financial stake in this for myself and not much more then that. I'm such a fuckin' hypocrite! :nono:

Maybe we just need somebody willing to treat this as a hobby and keep it small and stable just so everybody here can keep on bullshitting about Boxing, Politics, Sports, Movies and Ladies with the big boobies.

I don't know. Hope it works itself out.

:cheer:

 

You're probably right. :doh:

 

For fuck's sake people: how hard can it be to run a boxing website? I mean, there are other sites which are being run fine by people who have full time jobs and do it out of love of the sport and the forum members...

About half a dozen people who regularly post here are experienced web programmers. Surely some of these guys can step up and put a bit of graft into this?

I got laid off from work last month, so I have a few months of spare time available (until I start my new business in February) if spare time is the issue. I'm happy to help whichever members put the money up if time is the only factor. But people have to realise- this site will not be a viable financial concern. It isn't going to make anybody rich. Advertising and whatnot should raise enough money to pay for the site but that is all.

How much money is being paid in keeping this site going? I'm in the middle of putting a website together for my new company and it's cost me less than £100 to put together; buying the domain name, some webhosting space, some email packages and Microsoft FrontPage. What are the costs that are putting people off buying this site? Isn't the forum just a template running from a server? How much is this and is the cost needed?

I'm not an expert of any kind on these things, but I can't honestly say I can see what the problem is. All you need is someone who can update the shithole homepage, people to contribute content, someone who will mod the forums (the guys we have now are fine) and enough technical know-how to keep the thing afloat.

MTF :dunno:

 

I get what you're saying Feebs, but try having a sick baby, a new house to winterize, and other property obligations AND THEN try to look after all the aforementioned site details. It sounds easy, but when you're working fulltime and you've got a family, the time and the energy aren't as easy to find as you seem to think.

 

I understand that my friend and I'm not having a go or anything (except at Noble, who is a coward...j/k ::). I just can't believe that there aren't at least a few sad sacks here (like me) who have enough time to put into this if TIME is the only issue (as opposed to money) as Noble and youself are alluding.

MTF

 

Stop whining, will ya?
Freaking cry-baby.
Grow up! Be a man! Enough excuses!

 

Shut your mouth troll. You spend so much time trolling it's hard to imagine you'd know anything about real life.

 

I'm sorry you feel that way and I'm also sorry PBF shits all over your favorite fighters, but can't we all just get along?

 

The day you post something that is not designed to stir the pot is the day we get along.