TUF Koschek/GSP

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  1. REEDsART

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    REED Agrees w/All that, but it's HYPOCRITICAL for a Guy to Talk as Much SHIT about Boxing as Dana White Does, THEN Parade Tyson Around on his MMA Show...

    Dana White PERPETUATES the "Boxing vs. MMA" Talk More than ANYBODY, so it Rubs REED the WRONG Way that he'd Use Boxing to BOOST his Ratings....It's NOT the End of the World or Anything, just a Sign of White's HYPOCRISY...




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  2. *Z*

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    Dana White is the president of the UFC, what's he supposed to say? Of course he will say his product is better. You can't take anything he says seriously, he's running a business, nothing more nothing less.
     
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    White INITIATES Many of the Boxing vs. MMA Debates Though, Dude...Don't START the Unnecessary Shit THEN Parade 1 of Boxing's MORE POPULAR Fighters Around, in your Next Move....



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  4. *Z*

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    Dana is a boxing fan. believe it.
     
  5. Anthony

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    No he doesnt. There is no debate. What debate is there? Dana didnt even want Toney in the UFC. He knew what would happen. Toney fucking begged him. When Toney lost Dana said he hopes this puts an end to all of this shit
     
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    Riiiight, so U've NEVER Heard White ENCOURAGING Peeps to Watch MMA INSTEAD of Boxing, Based on what they Do Differently???....Seriously, Your LAME, COY Bullshit is Getting TIRED, Dude...

    If U're HONESTLY Saying U've NEVER EVER Heard Dana White DISS Boxing to Make MMA Look BETTER, Don't even Bother Responding...

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    i rather enjoyed tyson on the show, i couldnt give a fig about dana white and his bullshit
     
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    REED Doesn't Either, TRUELY...

    REED is Merely Pointing Out the HYPOCRISY of Dana White...When it BENEFITS HIS Product, he'll GLADLY Blindside the Entire Sport of Boxing w/a Shot to the NADS, yet when it Benefits the RATINGS of his MMA Show, White will GLADLY Use a Boxer...

    Don't Tell the Mainstream Media how Much BETTER YOUR Product Is than the Competition, THEN Turn Around & USE that SAME Competition to PITCH Your Product...



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    i agree, but white is a business man first so what do you expect

    his tactics may be bullshit but he puts out a good product so i cant complain much, the centralization of MMA within one main organization has alot of benefits, mainly that we get to see alot of the fights we want to see without promotors and such getting in the way

    boxing could use some of that, if boxing was set up similar to MMA in this respect we would have seen floyd-pac by now id imagine
     
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    Well they arent usually scheduled on the same day. If they are, then of course he is going to want you to watch his product. Fact is that he doesnt have to diss boxing. Boxing disses itself constantly.
     
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    this is a silly argument. It wasnt even Dana that wanted Mike there it was GSP. Dana bashes the way boxing is run. The promoters holding fights back for their own wallets. Dana white has been a fan of boxing for ever. And Tyson is a HUGE fan of MMA.
     
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    For 1nce, ANSWER a Question Posed to U, Homey...

    Have U EVER Heard Dana White SLIGHT Boxing for the Sole Purpose of Making MMA Look Better???...If your Answer is "YES", then U have a CLEAR Picture of Why REED would B Irked by Mike Tyson Being on TUF....



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    I'm not sure what Tyson has to do with Dana dissing the current state of boxing. Tyson isn't a current fighter and the sport was far better during Tyson's reign.

    I would love to see a quote from White in which he slams the actual sport of boxing. I'm not talking about slamming the current state of boxing, which we all lament, but rather the sport itself. I don't think I've heard that from him but would love to see if anyone else has.

    On top of that it is clear Dana is a long time boxing fan. Now it just so happens he does work for an organization that competes with boxing from time to time.

    But it's pointless. It was cool to see Tyson on the show. It's clear that GSP as well as the TUF contestants are big Tyson fans and jacked about him being there.
     
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    It's Only "Silly" Because U KNOW REED's Beef is ACCURATE...Dana White has NOfuckingPROBLEM Dissing Boxing, but All of a Sudden, Mike Tyson is on TUF???...CLEAR Case of HYPOCRISY...& SPARE REED the GSP Angle...GSP & Tyson had ALREADY MET SEVEARL TIMES PRIOR to the Taping to the Show...They even Acknowledged it DURING Last Weeks Episode...

    "Silly" EXCUSE is More Like it...

    The FACT is, Dana White is a HYPOCRITE...Sure, he's SMART, BRILLIANT & he's Marketing the Hell Out of his Product, but he's STILL a HYPOCRITE...No Two Ways about It...

    When Fedor vs. Brock Lesnar Happens, THEN U Can Complain about BOXING Promoters "Holding Fights Back"...Let's NOT Pretend that MMA Delivers the Fights Fans Want 100% of the Time....



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  16. Anthony

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    No, he doesnt diss the boxing as a whole, the way you put it. He may diss a card or the fact that the two best arent fighting. But he doesnt diss boxing as whole. Ad for it irking you, that seems like a personal problem. There are people who are MUCH closer to the sport of boxing than you that are LESS irked than you about white. And i cant for the life of me figure out why. Other than the fact that White is right and you cant handle it.
     
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    WOW!!!...

    So Even YOU'RE Gonna Sit Here & Act as if U've NEVER EVER Heard Dana White SLIGHT the Sport of Boxing???...You Guys R Something Else...



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    Fuck U, Dude...

    White is "Right" All of a Sudden???...U're the Motherfucker that KNEW Absolutely NATHAN about David Haye, 1 of THE 5-10 MOST Publicized Current Boxers...Yet U STILL Think U're FOOLING Fightbeaters Into Believing U're STILL a Fan of Boxing???....

    REED "Can't Handle" HYPOCRISY...As Loooooooong as it Benefits a Sport YOU Like, U're COOL w/Hypocrisy, Apparently...



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    Dude I'm far from a White fan. I will call them like I see them with him everytime. . I've heard a ton of shit from him about how boxing is promoted and how badly the sport is run. But I honestly have never heard him slam the sport of boxing itself.

    I'm not saying he hasn't. I'm just saying I haven't heard it. I would love to see some quotes counter to what I'm saying. They might exist. I don't know.
     
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    Read you have no beef with Dana white. Dana white doesnt bash the sport of boxing. He may bash specific fighters or promoters but he doesnt bash the sport. And what does that have to do with Mike Tyson anyways? Mike Tyson isnt an active boxer. When Mike Tyson was in his prime, dana was involved in boxing.

    And please dont bring up Two different orginzations, because its clear you dont know what you are talking about.
     
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    You know when the subject gets changed, i have already won this discussion. Wht does this have to do with out discussion one bit?
     
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    Again, how is it hypocritical to have Tyson on TUF... I can show you a dozen glowing quotes from White about Tyson as a boxer but I can't find any in which he slams Mike.

    So how is being a fan of Mike Tyson and bringing him on the show an example of hypocrisy? If White brought Don King or Bob Arum on the show in gushing fashion then I would agree 100% with you.
     
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    Those SAME Criticisms about How Boxing "Is Ran" Can Be Levied AGAINST MMA Though...The BEST Fights in MMA DO NOT Happen 100% of the Time...Hell, Liddell vs. Wanderlai Happened 3-5 Years AFTER the Matchup Exceeded its Shelf Life...Brock vs. Fedor???...The FACT is, Until his Last Fight, Fedor was Regarded as MMA's BEST Fighter, Lb for Lb, yet he'll Probably NEVER EVER Fight in MMA's Best Organization...

    So SPARE REED this Shit about How BOXING "Is Ran" or Promoted...MMA has its OWN Business to Tend To, without Throwing Boxing Under the Bus....

    Dana White has NO Reservations about Playing the 2 Entities AGAINST Each Other, so Excuse REED for Being a Bit Perturbed when White Turns Around & Blatantly USES what HE Perceives to B the "Lesser" of those 2 Entities, to Promote HIS OWN Product....



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    "Won" What???...U Certainly CAN'T Claim Victory w/Out Embracing Pure OWNAGE on that Boxing Topic that Illustrated YOUR Ignorance about David Haye...

    CAN'T Have it BOTH Ways, Homey...



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    What's "Clear" is U're Willing to Basically Take it Up the Ass, in Regards to MMA...WHATEVER they Say or Tell U, U BLINDLY ACCEPT...

    Why SHOULDN'T REED Bring Up the VARIOUS MMA Organizations & THE FACT that it Prevents MMA From Making the Best Possible Matchups 100% of the Time???...Especially when Tapout Nerds like YOU Hold Boxing to that SAME Standard???...

    So Since Mike Tyson ISN'T Active Anymore, that Means he Should B DISassociated from Boxing???...Only in YOUR World....



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    What SPORT Made Mike Tyson who he Is???...After DISSING Aspects of the Sport that MADE Mike Tyson who he Is (On NUMEROUS Occasions), Dana White Turns Around & MILKS Mike's Presence for his MMA Show???...

    Uuuuuh, that's HYPOCRITICAL...



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    Personally I'm not employed by an MMA or Boxing promoter or organization so I can slam them both at the same time if I wish.

    All I know is that the better matchups are made far more often in MMA than boxing right now. So I'm not going to spare you anything. Period.

    This is starting to seem like another example of a boxing fan getting his panties in a bunch because MMA is a popular sport.

    I think you might secretly be more pissed that Tyson is a big MMA fan and was gushing at cage side about how good the fight was. Something tells me Dana wouldn't have invited Mike to the training center if Tyson didn't like the sport. So maybe you should heap some of your ire on Tyson for sleeping with your perceived enemy.
     
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    REED has Been CLEAR & DIRECT in his Angst...U're WASTING Your Time w/that "Secretly" Shit....MORESO, REED is CLEARLY a FAN of MMA, as his Posting HISTORY Illustrates....

    MMA Being Popular DOESN'T Bother or Threaten REED in the Least...But when a Guy is ON RECORD Dissing Boxing OR Aspects of Boxing, REED's Gonna Call "Bullshit" when that Same Motherfucker Bring a Popular BOXER Onto his MMA Show...

    & If U & Godfather CAN'T See that, REED Really Doesn't Give a Fuck...



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    So I guess what we've learned is that you can't be critical of a sport and still be a fan.
     
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    White is Only "Critical" of Boxing in an Effort to Make HIS OWN Product Look Better...Is that SMART, BRILLIANT or whatever Other Positive Adjective U Wanna Attach???...Certainly...

    But it's Also HYPOCRITICAL, when he Brings Mike Tyson onto his MMA Show...



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