Thinking Garcia won this fight, walking forward missing wild haymakers getting tagged all the time is far, far more absurd than thinking this is a worse robbery than the others. It's MUCH worse than Bisping Vs Hamil. Hamil won, but Bisping was somewhat competitive and won a round. Shogun Vs Machida was worse than Bisping Vs Hamil too, and I don't like Bisping, he's a knob. Shogun won at least 4 out of 5 rounds against Machida. That was a hardcore robbery. The Nam fight is worse though, because he won every round without question.
Those stats are being kind to Garcia. Half of those landed strikes they're counting probably hit the gloves, he barely landed anything clean. The stats confirm what most of us are saying, anyone who scores the fight for Garcia is literally scoring punches thrown. Well done, Garcia threw more punches than Nam. Oh and I was wrong, Leonard got 2 takedowns, not 1. But no dominant positions.
Damn, that lanky mofo iced him. It's impressive how much power some of these string beans can generate actually. In punches it's rare, but in knees and kicks, they can pack some power. Such leverage.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one fellas. While i thought Garcia's victory was just, and Nam victory wouldnt have suprised me either. Telling me that this was no robbery. You guys dont remember hamil vs. Bisping if you are even close to comparing it to this fight. But hey. Thats why we have opinions. @ Robbery.
Yeah....grotesque sound. Sounded like the Martinez-Williams shot. Oh, and despite the UFC's editing. Paixao didn't walk away from that. Took him out on a stretcher. Was moving his limbs though.
Sorry brotha, but I think you are out of your mind on this one. I've been to Sherdog and the vast majority are calling it a robbery there as well.
, like I said it's rare. Those 2 are the exact two that came to mind as I was writing the post. Significantly, I couldn't really think of anyone else. Tall skinny dudes having brutal Chico or Hearns esque power is rare, make no mistake. That's why those 2 are exceptional.
Almost everybody thinks it's a robbery apart from GF. Nam, Rogan, the entire crowd, the guy doing the play by play for sherdog, most people think Nam won every round. If you think Garcia won a single round in that round, you literally score for punches thrown. Look at the punch stats. I think they are being kind too. Nam landed around 4 times as many clean blows as Garcia, at least.
I can give a fuck what you all THINK. Nam lost officially, It wasnt a robbery. It was very close. My mind isnt going to change so if you want to continue with this back and forth, go ahead.
You arent the only one that doesnt think its a robbery. Now i have no problem with people thinking nam won. It was a close fight. But i have a problem with this being called a robbery. I have a huge problem with this beng called the biggest robbery ever.
Ok that is a bit much. But seriously, ive seen weaker stoppages than what Nam had going on midway through the second. Also, add Garcia to the list of people who thought Nam won the fight. That said, ill agree it wasnt the worst robbery ever, but definately way worse than Bisping Hamil which is at least debatable.
Watch Nam against Garcia again. I would guess you haven't seen the fight at all. It's not even close. And in case you missed it, have a look at the punchstats - http://www.compustrike.com/stats_files/ufc_tuf12/Phan-Garcia.HTM What was that you said about Garcia landing more strikes?
How is it not a robbery when Nam landed at least 3 times as many clean punches, landing more in all 3 rounds?
I have seen Nam Garcia. Probably more times than you have by now. Pay close attention because as you can see, punches landed on the arms count (you probably didnt know that) Now that being said, i question these numbers. No way Nam landed more arm punches than Garcia. Hell Majority of Garcia's punches were arms. But Compustrike has been wrong before.
Uhhmm... since when do arm punches count towards winning a fight ?? Yes they do "count" as in they count on punchstats. But fights aren't scored on punchstats. You pretty much are agreeing with what everyone else already knows, that Nam landed more punches than Garcia, and the punches that Garcia landed were mostly on the arms, which is why Nam easily won the fight.
Personally I thought the Korean Zombie decision was worse. I'll be honest though. I was shocked at those punch stats. I would never have guessed that Nam landed that much. I thought 1 and 3 were close and 2 was clearly Nam's. Based on my proposed liberal 10 point scoring, here is how it would have been scored: Round 1: 10-10 Round 2: 10-8 Nam Round 3: 10-9 Garcia Final tally: 29-28 for Nam.
Arm punches count similar to how leg punches count. Do you understand MMA? You ever see someone againt the cage get footstomped? That counts. Punching the limbs in Martial arts is very effective. Ask Shamrock who's arm was broken by a kick to his arm.
No offense Trpl, I'm not trying to be rude, but you and GF obviously weren't really paying attention to what you were watching. You never would have guessed Nam landed that much? The punch stats are closer than I thought they would be. The crazy thing is, Godfather just fucking ADMITTED that most of Garcia's punches were on the arms. Yes I agree with you Godfather and co, Garcia landed a decent amount of punches on the arms. I don't know about you guys, but I like to score a clean head shot or body shot quite a bit fucking higher than a shot on the arms or gloves. 90% of garcia's blows didn't come close to landing clean. As far as clean headshots go, Nam outlanded Garcia 3 to 1. This fight is an absurd robbery, because it wasn't even close. Maybe to the untrained eye it kind of looked close because of the way Garcia was constantly coming forward throwing haymakers like a heathen, but in terms of clean shots landed, no it wasn't remotely close.
When Cung Le kicked Shamrock's block and broke his hand, was that effective? Yeah thats what i thought.
Again, this is MMA. A Clean punch could be a punch on the arm or shoulder. Depends on the damage that is done. Do you consider a Foot Stomp a Clean strike?
Yes punches blocked or grazed off the arms count.... for about 10-15% of what an actual punch landed on the head counts for. I don't understand, are you saying that in real world a punch to the head that actually hurts somebody is just that, but as soon as you step into an MMA cage the rules of physics and logic change completely, and the air from a missed punch suddenly counts for something, and a blocked punch is the same as being landed clean ??
