TUF Season 12 Finale

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  1. D MAN

    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    When Nam kicked Garcia and put him on his ass, then punched his block 10 or 15 times on the ground was that effective ? Yes.

    When Garcia jammed his face up against Nams nutsack and got him to 1 knee for 8 seconds before being stood up and punched in the head, was that effective ? No.
     
  2. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    If he didn't break his shoulder, then no not really, but fluke occurences does not make it effective.
     
  3. Anthony

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    You kick or punch someone in the shoulders and arms enough, it forces them to drop their hands, making the strikes effective.
     
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    Isnt that when Nam got Cut in his head?
     
  5. Anthony

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    Blocked punch no. A strike to the limbs yes. A blocked punch can be effective tho. I will ask again. Maybe someone will answer. Does a footstomp count as an clean strike?
     
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    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Don't worry MWS, you won't hurt my feelings on this one. It's a debate about a decision. It's all subjective.

    What's funny is I wanted Nam to win the fight. Typically when I am leaning toward a certain fighter, I will see things more heavily in their favor.

    For some reason that didn't happen this time. Maybe Garcia's heart or work rate compared to Nam's passive style made the difference. Not sure. All I know is I kept thinking "Come on Nam, you need to be busier."

    Oh well.
     
  7. Anthony

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    Yeah we are all rude here. We can take it. This aint no bitch site like others out there. If i call someone a fucking idiot, i hope they dont take it personal. Its just guy talk.
     
  8. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No. It counts as a foot stomp.
     
  9. Anthony

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    So lets say two guys are in the Octogon for three rounds. Opponent A throws three punches and all three land on Opponent B's face. Opponent A does nothing else the entire fight. Now opponent B takes opponent A and pushes him againt the wall and footstomps him 38 times. And does nothing else. Who wins the fight?
     
  10. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Neither.
     
  11. Anthony

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    Bullshit.
     
  12. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Yeah, it is bullshit. While your scenario is crazy, you know it wouldn't be scored even because that rarely happens in MMA.

    The foot stomp dude wins the round.
     
  13. Anthony

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    Exactly, because a strike to a limb is scored. And can be effective.
     
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    Like Trplsec, I thought to myself throughout the whole fight that Nam needed to be busier. His passive and inactive style will cost him throughout his career.
     
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    He will get knocked out very soon.
     
  16. D MAN

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    Agree, but that didn't happen.
     
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    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No. Its a desperate move that is largely ineffective. Besides, there were no foot stomps in the fight we are discussing.
     
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    A Footstomp is a deperate move? uh no. Its a great move. And investment if you will. If done probably, you can break their foot. Making moving around very dificult. and it didnt have to happen in the nam fight. It proves my point that blocked punches can be effective. And that arm punches (not blocked punches) count when scoring.
     
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    I didnt say it did. Im making a case that hitting a blocked target can be effective.
     
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    And what does a foot stomp have to do with a blocked punch :scratcher: ?
     
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    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    See above post.
     
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    I was having a discussion with TLC that hitting a blocked punch can be effective in a fight. Have you been following this thread D? Also, hitting guys on the arms and hands counts and scored punches in a MMA fight. If a Footstomp counts, so does a punch to the limbs
     
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    If you are talking about WWE, everything.
     
  25. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No. It is nothing more than a useless distraction move. Even among lower-level MMA, the move is insignificant. At world class level, its about as meaningful as Chad Mendes' "punches" from side control.
     
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    Again thats not true. High level MMA fighters use it. And its quite effective. If you dont think its effective, then i take back everything i have said about your MMA knowledge, because you would have to be one dumb motherfucker to do think a fractured foot (an occurrence often associated with a proper and consistant foot stomp) isnt an effective disadvantage in a fight.
     
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    Name fights where this has happened.
     
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    I havent a clue, because i dont have access to medical records. Many people dont even know they have a fractured foot or toes. A Broken foot/toes is one of the most common injuries in MMA. It doesnt stop the fight, it just slows you down. Its an effective blow. There is a reason why MMA doctors want the move banned.
     
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    This just shows how ignorant you are regarding the. From this statement, like many before, I can tell that you have NEVER rolled. Yet you speak as if you have first hand experience. Stop trying to be an authority on something you have never done.
     
  30. TLC

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    You don't punch when you roll, fucktard.
     

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