Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder

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  1. Hut*Hut

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    Then what happens? The big question!
     
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    The big question indeed. That will answer all the questions. Either fury gets knocked out by s rampaging Wilder or Fury shows he’s a survivor and fights back.
     
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    Cdogg's keys to victory:

    Deontay Wilder

    Strengths:

    Power

    Speed

    Weaknesses:

    Daftness
     
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    "And now we turn to our expert analyst Mr. The Clogg... your pick?"

    "Thank you, Slice. At the end of the day, I'm picking the Tinker. Yes, it's true that Wilder is faster and more powerful. But he is also daft, terribly daft. I think he will be outsmarted and spoiled by Fury, who is also daft but in a different way. Back to you!"
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think the longer it goes, the better for Fury. Wilder needs to get it done within the first 5 rounds. He’ll have a harder time landing with leverage on an opponent that’s the same height as him and who can side step and shift on a dime. And as Fury frustrates him and throws off his game plan, I don’t see Wilder having enough creativity to make openings for himself.
     
  6. Irish

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    Personally I think Wilder has what it takes to get the job done.

    For Wilder to win, I really just think he needs to maniacally attack from the outset and get at Fury, hurt him, cut him, do something.

    If he allows it to turn into a pose-fest, he's going to get beaten.
     
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    I watched this interview last night. Happened to be drinking an iced tea as I was watching.

    When Wilder was talking about being both Deontay and the Bronze Bomber, and Fury replied "Well, you and your alter ego are a pack of bums!"

    I literally spit my drink out laughing.
     
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    When Fury stops the BS and just talks boxing, he's got good watch-ability.
     
  10. Irish

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    "You can't beat me and 10 more like you can't be me"

    Fucking hell. If Fury loses he better just go into a cave somewhere.
     
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    Wilder has some fuckin nerve considering he's dissed Tyson multiple times, yet in every interview calls himself "The Baddest Man on the Planet".

    No one will EVER consider you that, you windmilling bum.

    That moniker was born with, lives with, and will die with Mike.
     
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    I tend to lean towards Wilder getting it done as well. 36 minutes is a long time to go without getting caught by a bomb, and when you factor in Fury's time out, well it's going to be tough. Usually when you put a superior boxer in there against a guy with a "puncher's chance", 99% of the time I go with the boxer, this is that 1% that makes me think differently. Wilder's power is just something you don't fuck around with, and he not only retains it throughout the whole fight, he BELIEVES in it the whole fight. That's a big thing, he's just going to keep trying to land it.
     
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    Fury has a point when he says to Wilder "I bump into people like you every day of my life"............he means that. He's been around dangerous lumps his whole life and has probably been getting into fights and getting beaten for years and years.

    You might get killed in a Ghetto but you won't take a beating every day, day in day out, as part of your everyday normal life routine.
     
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    Wilder imitating Hatton fans now.

    Fucking hell get your own lines!!!
     
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    "There's only one Bronze bomber..........."


    I surmise therefore that there's only one silver bomber and one gold bomber and Wilder ain't either.
     
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    That's extremely incorrect. If you're weak, you will most certainly will get your ass kicked regularly in any American hood.

    It'd be a mistake to think that in the ghetto dudes can ONLY shoot and stab. Well, some pussies are only shooters.

    But most dudes in the hood HAVE to know how to fight. This is ESPECIALLY true for brothas down south, where I'd say fist figting in the ghetto is probably more prevalent than up North.
     
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    No, you miss the point, I feared you and others might too.

    I am not talking about violence per se.

    I am talking about organized fighting.

    As soon as Fury turned 5, they gave him somebody to fight. As soon as he beat that somebody, they got him somebody else, over and over and over again, every day, literally.

    I mean....literally. Day for fucking day up to the stage people began to see some worth in him as an amateur and he got pulled off the gypsy circuit and was managed accordingly.

    That guy has, and I know I am repeating myself, literally been fighting all his life.

    He says as much when he sneers at Wilder and says........"This is no second option......."
     
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    The whole gypsies and fighting stereotype is basically the same as the Asians and maths one. They're trained to be good at it from the off. It's not always the case obviously, I'm half-Asian and I'm shite at maths, this probably holds true in regards to a lot of gypsy fighting skills, but I'm never going to try and find out.
     
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    Gotcha. I understand what you're saying.

    The way you phrased it just made it sound like you don't have endure fights in the ghetto.
     
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    A lot fighting is a natural ability, I dont give a shit what anybody says.

    So no, Fury never saw a Wilder growing up, cause none of the Gypsies he was up against were 6'7 with handspeed and one punch power.
     
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    They both legitimately got under each other’s skin in this one. The tension is mounting.

    I haven’t looked forward to a fight this much since......I can’t remember.
     
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    If you think the American hood is a tough place, check out most parts of India after 9pm like Delhi. Females are locked inside their homes in fear that they'll be brutally ravaged and raped like the girl in the delhi bus rape incident in 2012. Even 2 year old girls are gang raped in India and often times it's the cops who are also involved in the rapes. Only way to be safe is if females are in large groups with other male friends and they avoid taking the bus or public transportation in the late hours.
     
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    I’ve noticed that you have a particular fascination with young girl rape in India. You mention it as much as Rainmaker used to mention Kangals.
     
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    Poor Hanz simply likes his ladies clean shaven and in India anything over 2 is a hairy mess.
     
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    Dont forget the threat of Bengal tigers!
     
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    Please. They both know what they're doing. Theres still no bad blood in this matchup.

    We'll have to wait for Wilder-Joshua to see real animosity.
     
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    Not about fascination. It's about the reality of the world out there. People talk about the hood but there are far worse places.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    His self belief is genuine. It’s his biggest weapon.

    If boxing is more mental than physical, Fury is a great example of why.
     
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    They liked each other pre signing the fight and immediately after signing the fight but now it’s getting real and by the time the fight comes there will be genuine animosity and it’s already starting
     
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    Word. Fury’s self belief is second to none. Interestingly, wilder seems to have the same self belief. Someone’s going to be devastated after the fight.

    By the way, so many possibilities in this fight. I just imagined a draw scenario where fury wins 8 rounds but wilder knocks him down 4 times. Wouldn’t that be crazy?
     
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