Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder

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Looks like it’s really happening.

 

Man I'd be so hyped for this fight if it materializes!!! This matchup is only a hair below Joshua-Wilder in terms of excitement.

 

Wilder confirmed in his own interview that the deal is almost done.

 

It's interesting because the Fury of the Klitschko fight has a more than legit chance of winning. That comeback fight though was absolutely disgraceful, I'm doubtful as to whether he can ever reach that kind of level again.

 

Possibly. But Fury has the tools to neutralize Wilder’s right hand. His conditioning will be the difference in this fight, one way or the other.

 

Cunningham's a Career Looooooooooooong CRUSIERWEIGHT w/a 33% KO Ratio...

And he Dropped Fury HARD...

That Cannot Be Minimized Bro...REED Won't Dare Rewatch Fury-Wlad to Verify, but he Can't Recall Wlad Landing a Single Flush, Torqued, "Bad Intentions" Punch...He Certainly Didn't Throw/Land Anything Like he Dropped Joshua w/…







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To JIMMY, it's not shocking that a Fury-Wilder fight is happening and it's even less-shocking that Fury will totally confound Wilder from a boxing perspective.

Deontay Wilder is a poor, poor, really fuckin modern-day, poor-man's, at best fast-Frank Bruno.
And that's at a massive push.

 

Fury can outbox Wilder but they're both sloppy as hell so I see Wilder landing some wild bomb in round 6 hurting Fury and following up with his trademark haymakers to the back of the head for a tko.

 

It's Strange Witnessing a Fighter of A.J.'s MASSIVE Popularity, Losing Credibility w/Hardcore Fans as Abruptly as he Has, Thru NO Fault of his Own Really...

He Hasn't Raped or Beaten a Woman, Pissed Dirty for PED's, Molested a Child, Ridiculed the Handicapped or Anything...Joshua's a VERY Easy Chap to Like, Easy to Laugh, Confident w/Out Being Arrogant...

Other than ENTRUSTING his Promoter to Do What's Best for Him, There's NO Other Explanation for the Current State of Ann-Tunney Josh-WA...REED Can't Recall the Pendulum Shifting Quite Like THIS, in Such a Short Time, for a Fighter of Joshua's Magnitude...

A Promoter is Supposed ENHANCE the Fighter he's Representing...

And Until the End of Joshua-Parker, Eddie Hearn had Done a Damn Good Job of That, Admittedly...But Since Then, he's COMPLETELY Shat Away Any Level of Good Will A.J. Accumulated in America and Fury-Wilder Will Chip Away Likewise w/Hardcore UK Fans...








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The issue is aj probably can't beat wilder and his promoter knows it

 

Even if That's the Case, Do You DECLINE $80mil Guaranteed ($50mil for the 1st Fight, $30mil for the RE, MINIMUM) to Take a 60-40 Fight vs. a DANGEROUS Ass Mandatory like Povetkin???...

The Risk-Reward ISN'T in the Best Interests of Joshua, in REED's Opinion...

Call REED Crazy, but he'd Much Rather Make $50mil (Disregarding the Additional Contracted $30mil for Joshua-Wilder II Altogether) in a Fight he'll "Probably" Lose, than $20-$25mil in a Fight he COULD Lose...

And Let's Not Forget Hearn was In the Midst of ANNOUNCING his Streaming Service Deal with DAZN...Hearn KNEW There was a 0% Chance of Joshua-Wilder on DAZN, but he Desperately and Greedily Wanted to FINALIZE That Deal Anyways, Which was the Motivation Behind Joshua-Povetkin in REED's Opinion...

Joshua's Bouts were ALREADY on UK PPV, w/HBO and Showtime Actively Competing for and Even SHARING American Rights to his Fights...Joshua DIDN'T Need DAZN and Still DOESN'T, But Eddie Hearn WANTED DAZN...

REED Doesn't Think Eddie Hearn Really CARES if Joshua Can Beat Wilder or Not, He's Just Getting HIS...Clearly Looking Out for Self, Even as he's Hired to ENHANCE Joshua's Brand...

Good Ol' gREED...




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Yeah. Seems like hearns has ulterior motives.

 

Hearn is a fuckin slimeball, and DAZN's boxing venture will crash and burn because it won't attract enough subs.

It's unbelievable how much hate Haymon gets in the business, when this is the ONLY man in the modern era who tried to bring boxing from behind the paywall.

 

These premium stream services are going to be the nail in the coffin for boxing

 

Thats absurd. Cooper was a shitty hw, yet he dropped clay hard (much harder than cunningham dropped fury). Still, it didnt meant anything. Aberrations can occur in boxing.

Wlad nailed fury with some good punches in the last round, and fury took them well

 

Nah. Theyll only fail miserably and everything will go back to normal

 

Piss Poor Analogy...

If NATHAN Else, Henry Cooper Could ALWAYS PUNCH a Little Bit...

How is that in ANY Way Analogous to a FEATHER FISTED CRUSIERWEIGHT Flooring a Dude 50 Pounds HEAVIER and More than Half a Foot TALLER than Him???...

You're Man Crushing on Some Fury Fanboy Shit if You TRULY Believe Getting Dropped as he Did by Steve Cunningham DOESN'T Matter @ All...








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Yeah cooper could hit a bit. But him dropping hard a guy who had one of the best chin ever was a total aberration, and not reflective at all of ali chin. Same thing with the Cunningham kd. Fury took the punches of much harder puncher without problem. It was an obvious aberration.

 

Fury will have to be on point the way he was against Wlad to win this. I don’t believe Wilder has the skills Wlad has, but he will be more willing and EAGER to let his hands go.

On the flip side, that could leave Fury more opportunities to counter but he’s not a huge hitter, even though I question Wilder’s chin.

 

Wlad never really hit fury flush. That fight was just posing postering and clinching

 

yea he robbed investors of their hard earned money so we could watch a bunch of mostly shitty fights on network tv.

i dont hate the guy, but he certainly didnt do the game of boxing as a whole, or boxing fans any great service.

 

Top Rank, Which Seems to Be YOUR Promotional Entity of Choice, Just Inked a 5 Year Extension with ESPN.

w/Out the SUCCESS of PBC on “Regular” TV, That Doesn’t Happen.

Haymon’s Emancipated Boxers from the Shackles of Promoters. Not Sure WHY that Bothers You. “Money May” Never Materializes Were it Not for Al Haymon.








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you cant be serious

haymon was PAYING espn (along with every other network) not getting paid to show boxing. how exactly did that help top rank broker the deal with espn?

his business model proved to be a complete disaster and lost these poor saps who invested with waddell & REED many millions of dollars.

 

So the FACT Al Haymon DARED to Make Boxing More Accessible to the Common Man, DARED to Take Boxing Back to the "Good Ol' Days" in Terms of Making Bouts More ACCESSIBLE, the FACT his Televised Bouts Consisted of a Young Errol Spence, Adrien Broner, Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter, and the FACT All those Fighters Did GOOD Viewership Numbers in that Capacity, Had NO Impact @ All on ESPN's Interest in a Business Deal w/Top Rank???...

You Don't REALLY Believe That Shit Bruh...

Fact Is, EVERY Promoter Sat Back and Waited to See How PBC Played Out...And Based on the Ratings, Haymon's Model WORKED...

But Yeah Neil, Haymon and PBC had NATHAN to Do w/Top Rank on ESPN Surfacing After PBC's Foray w/Bringing Boxing BACK to the Masses...





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haymons model worked?

youre the first person Ive heard seriously make that claim. the guy lost like HALF a billion dollars of the waddell & REED investors money.

haymon turned out to be a crook. he respects boxers so he wasnt robbing them, but he sure was robbing someone.

I wondered what exactly his plan was with the time buys, the putting fights on in random places that made zero sense, overpaying fighters, the papering of crowds and lack of promotion.

In the end his plan proved to be just the same as don kings was, bilking some naive people out of their money. haymons end game was not to grow the sport or make good fights for the fans, or even to build fighters fan bases in their home towns to where they could become legitimate draws. he was simply interested in over paying them and taking his managerial cut

 

If the time buy model worked, why did he stop doing it?

Haymon has some guys who potentially could become big money makers in boxing. so we shall see how it works out for him, as far as doing anything more than simply getting his 20% or whatever cut he takes as manager.

of whats currently in his stable, these are the guys worth something: Wilder (even though i think he's trash, he has potential to make big money) Spence, Benavidez, Jermall Charlo, Hurd, Thurman, Gervontaa Davis, Santa Cruz, Frampton, Russell Jr.

 

Depends on YOUR Definition of "Worked"...

REED's Been VERY Clear in his Interpretation of It; VIEWERSHIP #'s and the EMANCIPATION/ENRICHMENT of Fighters...Back When Don King and Others were ROBBING Fighters and Networks Blind, They were Viewed as "Successful", yet When Haymon Puts Borderline PPV Quality Bouts on Regular TV and Amasses as Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep a Roster of Fighters as we've EVER Seen, it's NOT "Successful" to You???...

Literally, the ONLY People REED's EVER Heard Suggesting Haymon's Model ISN'T/HASN'T Worked Are Those Affiliated w/RIVAL Promoters...Back When You were the Token White Guy of TMT, You NEVER Said a Bad Word about Haymon...But Now That You're CLEARLY Shilling for Top Rank, Haymon's Business Model "Didn't Work"...

Ask Your Boy "Money May" if Haymon's Model "Worked" or Not...






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Stop Doing It?

Andre Berto vs. Devon Alexander, w/Peter Quillin vs. J'Leon Love is on FOX This Evening Bruh...

Everyone Agrees Showtime is RAPING Every Other Network in Terms of Number and Quality of Fight Cards...That's SOLELY Attributed to Al Haymon and PBC...

FYI, Losing "Half a Billion" Dollars Seems to Bother YOU More than it Bothered Waddell and REED...When You've Got 40BIL Stashed Away, 400MIL Ain't Life and Death...






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Deontay's WILDNESS Will Greatly Benefit Him vs. Fury...

How Many WILD, EXPLOSIVE Guys has Fury Faced???...Like Ortiz, Fury's CRAFT Will Control The Pace Early, but @ SOME Point he's Getting Clipped...And for as NIMBLE as Fury Is, he's a BIG Ass Target...

Even if it Takes Until the LAST Minute of the LAST Round, Wilder's Going to Add Fury to his Highlight Reel of KO's...






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