QUESTION: Shouldn't this fight be a DRAW? Rashad wins the first 2 rounds 10-9 because of the takedowns. Silva wins the third 10-8 because he rocked him and he went down. 28-28?
A lot of people crapped on this card, but it ended up being a fun night of fights. The main event was excellent, and the undercard fights were all entertaining. If Rampage and Evans fight in March, that would be UFC 111, which already has GSP\Hardy, Mir\Carwin and Fitch\Alves. If you put Rampage\Rashad on that same card, that would be sick. TFK
Understood. There was good reason why Evans didn't want to trade eventhough he also has tremendous power on the right hand. Silva was just soooo SLOW.
Nice BS win by Rashad. A victory, but only in the loosest sense of the word. He would've done some lay and pray, but couldn't even get that far. His ground game looked like shit. Thiago is a moron for letting him off the hook. He deserved to lose, just for that.
Decent night of fights. Glad Silva lost....you got the guy hurt and you put your hands on your hips and challenge him to come at you? :notallthere:....i understand he punched himself out a little, but with only 1 minute left, and clearly losing the fight, he had to go all out at that point.....what was he expecting....to catch his breath back with 20 seconds to go and hurt Rashad all over again? ....Hazlett wasn't much smarter, trading hooks with a powerhouse like Daley. We'll have to wait and see what happens when someone takes Daley down, but he's an exciting addition to the division....with how quickly Hardy moved to a title shot, Daley might only be one or two wins away from one too.
nice fights, overall entertaining, but I think Strikeforce events are more fun to watch for some reason. UFC got the names, but they need to match them up properly.
dos santos is a fucking beast. that left hook was devastating. what's up w/ the dude's ear though? it's ripe to be sebatian lujan'ed in the near future. i thought evans looked really good aside from that shaky moment in the 3rd. i've grown to like the guy since the last TUF and hope that he fights rampage. here's a question, has UFC ever been headlined by two black fighters?
wow UFC is full of stiffs who can't fight. do these guys know how to duck? its like they pull some dudes from random gyms and throw them on TV with some random Brazilians. MMA really sucks.
Now Dana White is saying Rampage\Rashad will happen at UFC 113 in May. That card is in Canada and has the Shugon\Machida rematch. TFK
Do you realize that the guys who got KTFO were expected to get KTFO right?? One was a guy who is a shot kickboxer who was never relevant in MMA in the first place, and the other is a stupid ground fighter with no stand up whatsoever that for some reason thought he could trade with a striker. Brainless game plan.
Yeah Paul Daly is underrated, you pretty much never hear him mentioned, but he could well be the best English MMA fighter. And that was the best I've ever seen Rashad look. I used to be an Evans hater, but I liked him more on the TUF show, and apart from almost getting KO'd, he was more impressive than I've seen him before, he's usually pretty boring.
Miller doesn't need a step up in competition unless you want to see him lose. That looked like the exact same level he's on right now.
Agree. Very strange to see back-to-back cards this bad. The Fight Night Live next week, that they barely advertised, looks better.
Stout's stamina seemed...enhanced. He should have been able to get rid of Lauzon who was 3 steps behind him for the last 12 minutes of the fight.
For as weak as 108 looked on paper, it turned out to be a really fun card. That's not the first time that's happened either. TFK
I like Daly a lot, but let's not go overboard. Whenever the fight goes to the ground Daly is in big trouble.
I hate the belief in a scoring system that rewards fighters for simply taking guy down. Rashard did this multiple times, cool, but he was unable to do anything with Silva and Thiago made it back to his feet every single time and yet we're still awarding points to the guy who took him down? It's ridiculous. Take downs should be worthless unless some kind of positional domination or damage is delivered, otherwise you should lose those points for having the position reversed.
Dominated what? He was in control of the part of the fight where nothing happened? Hoo-fucken-ray. Again, Im not questioning the decision. Under the laws of the game as they stand, he deserved to have his hand raised. The point is that the scoring system is flawed beyond belief if you can do nothing more than simply put a guy on his back for 20 seconds at a time with a football tackle and get your hand raised in a mixed martial arts fight.
i agree with you fundamentally....look at the Couture-Vera fight....Couture won that fight by pressing Vera against the cage and failing to take him down. :: With Rashad, some of the take downs were fairly heavy and would have done damage in themselves...Silva was blowing hard after one or two of them. I think the biggest problem with the scoring in MMA, is only awarding rounds 10-9 either way...judges need to be prepared to score more even rounds, or be encouraged to score rounds by more than 1 point more frequently. Boxing has the same problem, but to a much lesser degree because the effect is spread over 12 rounds.
That´s the first fight I thought of, when Tam complained. The only way Shoture could win the fight was pressing Vera against the cage for 15 minutes. Shoture can´t duck a shot to save his life, but he can hug idiots like Vera for three rounds. And Yes I´m still bitter I lost money on that fight. :shit: Fighters should be seperated and forced to stand up more often. Guys like Lesnar don´t try to submit or hurt opponents on the ground, they try to hump them for 12 minutes till they are exhausted and then they start to punch. Sometimes it looks like gay rape has become a PPV sport.
You've hit the nail on the proverbial head. There is no liberal use of the 10-8 (or greater) score in MMA and when fights are three rounds, getting the nod in two razor thin rounds and losing one clearly is good enough to get a W. That stinks and it's high time MMA took the hard road and came up with a unified system for use in the USA that wasn't designed for boxing matches lasting not only longer, but an even number of rounds. It's a spastic way to score a 15 minute fight, IMO. My biggest issue is what is a takedown worth if the guy gets straight back up? Thats all Rashard's takedowns were. He was never able to GnP or improve his position indicating control. He just grabbed some legs, drove and got him down. That isn't an effectgive takedown, just like a blocked punch isnt an effective strike. A stuffed takedown should be treated the same as a takedown that breeds nothing positive from it.
