UFC 126--Saturday 2/5/11-Predictions

Sorry, I meant going into the fights. Silva was fighting a guy around 10 years past his peak as a relevant fighter. A guy who was never very good to begin with.

I just find it bizarre that there was little outrage.

 

:: Sorry, we have to go back to this. This is a very poor display of posting.

Oscar was supposed to destroy Pacquiao.

 

Vitor did win 5 straight and KO'd Franklin in his last fight. He's not the most unworthy challenger ever. Not that I thought he deserved the shot, but it's far from criminal.

 

But looking beyond his record, I know that you know that Belfort isn't good. And really, back in the day, wasn't good. You and I both know that he doesn't have any heart. You and I both know that he doesn't have a chance against the very elite guys and never has.

Seriously, can you imagine the outrage if Mayweather or Pacquaio fought someone like that?

 

I agree, he wasn't deserving at all and did you see all the footage they used to hype the fight? Only the Franklin KO was from the last decade. They showed the Wandy KO over and over. Vitor was a good fighter 10 years ago, but even then was not THAT good. He just had fast hands and some power.

 

Totally. Belfort was ALWAYS a front-runner. I didn't see much hype other than a commercial or two, but a bunch of my friends were so pumped for it.

I just expect a higher standard from a fight site. I don't think I'm wrong to critisize Belfort as a PPV main-eventer, and I'm disappointed that some people here refuse to do it.

 

Vitor is pick'em against anyone at middleweight not named Anderson Silva.

 

Trust me, I've said from them minute this fight was announced that Belfort did not deserve the shot. He did nothing to establish himself in the UFC's MW division. He did not have a single fight at MW since coming back to the UFC.

My outrage was voiced way back when the fight was announced. Oh, here it is:

From 9/23/2010

That being said, Silva did exactly what he should have done to an over matched challenger. He destroyed him without taking a single punch.

Don't act like boxers never get easy title defenses. What's the next HW title fight again?

This might be your most lame attempt to date to slam MMA. Keep trying. It's fun.

 

You know, it also bears mentioning that the UFC is really short on challengers for Silva.

It's really too bad they don't have, I don't know, let's say a 39 year old fighter that is 1-2-1 in his last 4 fights to challenge the top P4P guy in the sport.

Oh wait, that would be boxing.. My bad.

 

What ever Steve_Dave's intentions are with these posts, I can't say I really have an argument against what he's saying.

 

Yes, that is such a mystery.:Thumbs:

 

i'm not sure what to think of this whole boxing vs. mma comparison.

i grew up watching boxing and pro wrestling and i was pretty amped up bout the first UFC when it happened. i always thought of it as its own genre (not necessarily sports) but it hasn't really been until recently (the last 5 years or so) where mma's been accepted as an actual sport w/ coverage from major media outlets. in that regards, i honestly credit accomsplished college/olympic wrestlers that crossed over to the sport because they were deemed as real athletes at one point.

i think it's great if you're a fan of both considering you get more things to enjoy.

personally, i used to like boxing a lot more, but now it's probably about the same. i also follow k-1, college/olympic style wrestling and to me, it's almost like comparing tennis/basketball/football.

 

I think it's funny people are trying to compare this event with an HBO event anyways. Everyone at my house was watching it and not comparing it to some HBO boxing match.

 

No one ever compares MMA to boxing in my circles. The only time it ever comes up in my life is on this board. And it seems to be a pattern to that. Everytime there is a MMA ppv event, guys come from the boxing forum to slam it. The good thing is, they won't revisit until the next one. And then do the same thing.

 

That Margarito fight was pretty farcical.


Also, Belfort knocked out Franklin in one round, and he was still winning fights when he was outside the UFC, in Affliction.

There wasn't a bevy of talent out there that was viewed as being more dangerous, especially on the feet for Silva. Belfort is regarded as one of the best strikers Silva's faced.


It's also not unprecedented in boxing, stop acting like it is.

2001 or whatever the hell it was Tyson has no business being in the same ring with Lewis and fans bought that shit up like it was the biggest fight in the history of the sport.

 

Were you outraged when Mayweather fought Sharmba Mitchell? What about Carlos Baldomir? These guys were definitely far beneath Floyd's level.

 

I was talking about this thread of course. The MMA fans want to compare boxing to MMA in this instance I guess. UFC 126 might have been good on paper but in the ring the undercard fights were better than the PPV fights.

 

Me either dude. I've got a group of 5 or 6 guys that watch MMA and boxing. We often watch fights together and the comparison between the two NEVER comes up. Each fight, in either sport is left to it's own merit.

And on here, it's not the MMA fans that bring it up. It is almost always the guys that don't like MMA. How quickly do they pop in here to try and slam an event the minute it hits the news. It really is predictable with Steve.

It's understandable though. For fans of both sports, neither threatens them. To the boxing fan that hates MMA, the success of the UFC and boxing's dip in popularity is alarming.

It doesn't bother me. Boxing isn't going anywhere. Until it gets back on it's legs, MMA is fun to watch.

 

Ummm, when you talk about whether an MMA fight is PPV worthy, the comparison to boxing is NATURALLY going to be made. I'm not aware of another sport that is regulary on PPV.

PPV events in boxing and MMA are not always worthy of the price. In an MMA's fans opinion, UFC 126 was worthy simply because of the spectacle of Silva's amazing kick plus answering the Jones-Bader question.

 

What question was answered by the Jones-Bader fight?

 

The fans were demanding that Lewis fight Tyson for a long time. Nobody was demanding a fight between Vitor and Anderson.

 

Ummm, which one these top contenders was ready for the next step and which one wasn't.

We got a clear answer.

I know you will claim that there wasn't even really a question as to which guy would win. But before you do, remember you also thought Franklin would handle Griffin easily there Nostradamus..

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According to bookmakers Shane has less of a chance...

In boxing there plenty "mismatches" like that, I'd say even more...

 

Yes they were, do you think Joe Silva and Dana made the fight for the fuck of it? :notallthere:


At least Vitor was still dangerous and not the total farce that was that fight.
Not sure what the odds were but anyone with half a brain would've cleaned up on that fight.

 

Shane just drew with Sergio Mora...:shit:



Also, it wasn't the "UFC hype machine" that had Vegas giving the odds at Anderson at .44. That was a lot of MMA fans getting behind Vitor and putting bets on him.

That's the highest odds I've seen Anderson in a very long time.

Compare to like the last 2 or three GSP fights where the odds weren't even weren't betting on despite a near guaranteed victory.

 

GSP by decision was...

 

Absolutely. You think Joe and Silva give fights because the fans ask for them?? NO ONE was demanding Silva/Belfort. :nono:

 

Dana seemed hell bent on making the fight for some reason. Okami is much more deserving than that choke artist.