UFC 156--- Aldo vs Edgar February 2, 2013

i just checked sherdog's round by round. all three guys had aldo winning. they also had him sweeping the first three rounds.

 

Pretty much everyone had it nailed here. Edgar won, but knew he was gonna get robbed.

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I had Edgar winning 3-2, but it wasn't a robbery. It was a close fight that could have gone either way.

 

Having Aldo winning was bad enough, but 49-46 is inexcusable.


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i had a feeling he would win, I think he's a better fighter than Evans. Predicting the sub was a bit much but like someone said, I would have been more shocked if Evans outstruck and ko'd him.

 

As dumb as Bigfoot looks, he fought a smart fight. He wasted no energy and was completely relaxed in the first 2 rounds and then just took advantage of a dead tired Overeem. Hopefully this is the last we see of the roided up douch bag Overeem at the highest level. He's an average MMA heavyweight with possibly the worst cardio in the sport. Probably my favorite knockout in MMA history.

I thought Edgar won 3-2 clearly. I wouldn't call it robbery because a 2-2-1 draw was certainly reasonable, but the fact that 2 judges had Aldo winning 4 rounds is just plain dumb. Edgar actually dominated the last 2 rounds.

Maia has thrust himself into the conversation at 170. His wrestling strength at 170 automatically makes him a threat against guys like Diaz and Condit. He might be one win away from deserving a title shot. I'd love to see him get the winner of Rory and Condit.

 

I don't think it would take that long. Rashad wouldn't last 2 rounds with Silva.

 

I picked Evans via UD but not by out-boxing Nog. I honestly thought Rashit would be able to take him down.

 

Overeem's stamina is pure shit, he will get KO'ed plenty more times in the near future. Well, unless he gets suspended for pissing dirty again.

 

Exactly. I just don't get it. The guy has done absolutely nothing at HW to be as highly regarded as he is. It just makes no sense to me. He's fought a who's who of HW bums around the world while juicing like a Tropicana plant. He doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against the top of the UFC. He'll probably go back to Japan or the Netherlands and face the Gary Goodridges of the world..

 

He looked bad tonight, but he can still beat a lot of heavyweights in the UFC. I would have picked him to beat Velasquez before tonight. That doesn't look likely now unless he landed a big shot early. Cain would wear him out with takedown attempts like he did with JDS, only Overeem wouldn't last 5 rounds.

I'd still love to see Overeem fight JDS. That fight would be fun, for the first round at least.

 

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Now let's not get ridiculous, Overeem has done plenty at HW, specifically beating Werdum ( probably the number 3 guy in the division since Overeem loss ) and steamrolling former champion Lesnar. He also totally overwhelmed solid B guy's like Duffee and Rogers. He's still a top hw, just one with cardio and chin problem, something we already pretty much knew.

 

I enjoyed this card, not really sure why guys didn't like it.

The ko of overeem was one of the best viewing pleasures of anything I can possibly remember watching mma. It was even better than getting to see Dan pound bispings head into the mat. And for those who think overeem learned some lesson tonight, sure he learned he has to get back on the juice. If you think overeem is all of a sudden gonna get this awesome work ethic and improve his stamina, you my friend are an idiot.

I love Edgar but he has to learn how to finish a damn fight. I had Edgar winning 3 rounds to 2, but this wasn't a robbery. The third round and fifth were close and could go either way. Aldo won rounds one and two clearly, Frankie won round four clearly. So even the 49-46 decision isn't some crazy shit. Frankie leaves waaaaay to much for the judges to decide . When you only win one round clearly, you aren't gonna win a decision .

Good win for nog, love it.

Meia has found a home at ww , makes some fun fights now.

I like the earlier comparison of Bigfoot and Nelson I think it was by reed, that's a fight that should be made. It would almost remind you of one of the early pride freak show fights

 

I know your feelings are a little hurt because your hero got thoroughly exposed, but I'm not being even close to ridiculous. If the highlights of your HW resume include Brett Rogers and Todd Duffee, you haven't done shit. And Brock Lesnar was done long before he stepped in the cage with Overeem. Diverticulitis was far more responsible for his loss to Overeem than anything Alistair did.

And Werdum was scared shitless and had an absolutely garbage strategy. I have no doubt that Bigfoot showed every other fighter in the division exactly how easy it is to beat Overeem. Now, after last night, I wouldn't be comfortable picking Overeem to beat middle of the pack UFC HW's like Roy Nelson, Big Nog, Frank Mir, Struve, Barnett, etc.

Let's be honest, Overeem has dodged opposition his entire HW career. He held the Strikeforce belt for almost 3 years without defending it choosing instead to fight the likes of Goodridge, James Thompson and freaking Tony Sylvester. Then, just when it seemed like we get to see him against Strikeforce's best HW's, he flees the tournament.

When you look back over Overeem's run at HW, outside of Werdum, the two best fighters he faced were Bigfoot and Kharitonov both of whom brutally knocked him out.

As I said previously, last night was probably the last time we hear Alistair Overeem mentioned as a HW title challenger. He is just too easy to beat now and it's pretty clear he's a product of 50% talent and 50% chemistry.

 

Well said sir. And let me add, Overeem didn't get starched because of a lack of respect for Bigfoot as Joe Rogan tried to make it sound. He got knocked out cold because he was too tired to lift his chemically enhanced arms. And Bigfoot knew it. He actually planned for it perfectly.

This really is one of the best examples of a fighter being exposed that I've ever seen.

 

maia's been really impressive since dropping down to welter, but no one's gonna want to fight him now. his takedowns and grappling look incredibly difficult to defend against. who the hell would want to fight him besides maybe ben askren?

 

I agree Joony. The dude is a monster at 170 and has out-grappled some great wrestlers. The only guys left in the division with that level of wrestling are GPS, Askren and maybe Hendricks although Hendricks really hasn't displayed it in the octagon.

I'd love to see Diaz-Maia but only because it would turn into a high level BJJ match with Diaz on his back. Maia working for subs against Diaz, who is dangerous off his back, would be fun to see.

 

That knockout was one of the most brutal one you'll ever see. Overeem was out on his feet and Big Foot landed around 5-7 HUGE shots. I think it was a pretty late stoppage. It was the MMA's version of Morrison/Mercer. Brutal brutal KO.

 

The results weren't all what I expected, but the overall impact is similar. This was a lesser UFC ppv card before and after, I think.

I'm not surprised that Edgar did well against Aldo, but I really wouldn't have expected him to come on after getting Faber kicked for two rounds like you guys described.
That usually sets the tone for a fight and slows down the kickee.

Glad the juicereem lost, but I'd guess Bigfoot is a juicer, too, so whatever.

 

:atu: at overrated Overroid getting thumped silly by the big retarded Caveman.

He's simply not that good, he's never been a true elite fighter.

 

I think the 265 lb, 5% bodyfat guy was an elite fighter.

 

I don't. Sure he didn't look as ridiculously big/ripped/roided as usual, but that doesn't really matter. He's always had questionable chin/heart/focus/stamina. All the muscles in the world won't change that.

He can obviously look like a dangerous offensive fighter at times, but I think he's always fallen short of being a true elite fighter. He's always had too many shortcomings, and been pretty basic and one dimensional too.

 

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