UFC 190 - ROUSEY vs. CORREIA

No anabolic steroid is strictly for cutting weight and not building muscle. Winstrol is typically used in cutting cycles by bodybuilders, but it is a very powerful drug for building strength and muscle. Users typically get significantly stronger with larger muscles while they burn fat if they take it with a cutting diet.

Other non-steroid drugs are used strictly for cutting, not building strength. DNP, T3, clenbuterol, drugs like those make fat loss easier without building muscle and strength. Of course they're banned in MMA too.

 

I was a big Carano fan, but she would have very little chance against Rousey. She never had the take down defense or ground game to seriously compete with today's Ronda.

 

I never said doubt. It's 100% factual that Carano was champ of nothing.

Her best win is over a chick that couldn't crack the top 10 today.

 

Dude, it's just hard for you to admit when you're wrong. Carano never held a single MMA belt. She just didn't. its not a question. It's not speculation. It's a fact.

But hey, prove me wrong. Show me when/where she was champ.

I'll wait.

 

By the way, I've watched women's MMA for a long time. Rousey's run is the 2nd most impressive thing I've seen by the chicks.

Anyone want to take a guess at #1.

I have mentioned her on her before.

 

I am saying Ronda should definitely move up to 140 or 145 and make the fight happen, just money-wise she doesn't have to and Cyborg has to. Even legacy wise for the casual fans and that's what counts Rousey is the best and dominant and whatever athlete to ever walk the earth on the other hand nobody knows Cyborg or her fame is not even close to Rouseys. So if she cares about money she needs to make whatever adjustments more than Ronda. Ronda has all the leverage here plus as u mentioned the UFC seems fine with just miking her for now.

Also I think you are right and Cyborg would be not at her best at 135. 140 seems fair to me.

 

How so? That's pure speculation and given she is not even american probably wrong.

 

Only caught once is not the best argument for her being clean. It means she got nailed once.

Do I assume that Cyborg did it more than once? Yeah, I think she did. Is it an assumption that a woman at 5ft8 and is 175lbs who looks like a female bodybuilder/Vanderlei Silva's younger brother has taken steroids more than once? Yes, that is an assumption, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably not a giraffe. ::

She weighed 175 three days after the weigh-ins for that Charmaine Tweet fight.

At the same time, I see Anthony's point. 140 is reasonable, but it means Cyborg gets down there, re-hydrates, and is much heavier than Rousey on the day of the fight. Cyborg might make 140, but she'd be fighting much heavier than that. Rousey did compete at a heavier weight than 135 in Judo, but she looks puffy and very roundin the face when she's not cutting. Cyborg looks like an off-season bodybuilder. Yes, I'm assuming that she is roiding, and I assume she did more than once.

She has missed weight in the past. What happens if she misses weight? Should Rousey fight her if she misses 140? Fuck no, and I can easily see her doing that and wasting Rousey's time to get another unfair advantage like she has done in the past---not just with missing weight but also with Masteron, a cutting steroid. If she needs to take a steroid to cut, she shouldn't even be at 145 in the first place.

If Cyborg can't make 135, she shouldn't call out the 135lb champion in my opinion. She said she was going to make 135 and Dana White said, "Sure". Now she's trying not to do that.

 

I know that. Pacman also... but it doesn't come close to the hype Tyson or Mayweather generates. Being american adds a little something. Maybe less so than in the rest of the world but it still helps. Saying she would be even MORE popular is pretty bold.

 

Guess I can agree with all of that. To me it seemed you mixed some of the things up bringing up that best female MMAist title that doesn't really exist... but I guess I understand now.

 

Oh - yeah I misinterpreted that totally. No doubt about that.

 

I'd like to see Cyborg-Tate to see if she can handle the division... :stir:

 

Judo weigh-ins are same day.

135 is the weight class she is best at in MMA. She makes the weight with no issue. No reason for her to fight at any other weight.

She just signed another movie deal. Everyone in the sports world is raving about her. She has the potential to be the best known athlete in the world.

At this point, she runs this shit.

 

I took this to mean bigger than Rousey. If you mean simply more popular than she is now, I absolutely agree. Just being on a UFC card would increase how well known she is.

 

second.

 

I was just reading that UFC 190 is estimated to have done right around 800K PPV buys. Earlier Dana White said it was trending at a pace to exceed UFC 189 (McGregor-Mendes) which was estimated to have done just over 1 million.

UFC 189 was a great card. It was probably the best card I've ever watched top to bottom. UFC 190, on the other hand, looked shitty on paper and ended up being shitty for real.

A while back I said the UFC was in for a rough period with PPV stars GSP, Silva and Jones out of the picture. Well, damn if the UFC didn't find replacements that might just be bigger draws.

 

I know it won't happen, but I'd love to see Cormier jump back to HW to fight Werdum.