UFC champ Jones facing possible nerve damage to bicep following close-call armbar

It's only a fluke in the sense that it's not going to happen like that again. JDS may very well win again, just not in that fashion.

 

His chin isn't any better than he showed. Truth is Cain is too chinny to hang in there long enough with JDS to set up potential takedowns. This time around look for him to move more and go in and out with leg kicks before attempting a takedown or two but this fight will end the same exact way. Except the KO will be more brutal this time around. Cain absolutely doesn't see round 2 again. Bank on it.

 

Didn't Cain Get hit in the TOP of the Head/TEMPLE Area???...



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The punch that did the damage was around the temple area. He was also rocked and almost knocked out by Kongo a few years ago. Cain doesn't have the chin (ability to take punches, not just to the chin) to take shots from JDS for long. I don't think his wrestling is good enough to take JDS down and hold him down for long. Cain might see round 2, but I don't see him going the distance.

Jon Jones has the heart of a champion, not just the talent and skills. I had a little weightlifting injury back in June (ruptured biceps tendon). When it happened, I had to sit down for a few minutes just so I wouldn't puke. I drove straight to the emergency room afterwards. I don't know if that's what happened to Jon, but the way he was holding his arm afterwards looked exactly how I felt. I hope that's not what happened to him, since I don't want him to be out of action for a long time. Whatever it was, it takes a high level of determination to fight through that and win. When someone bends your arm back and you hear / feel shit popping and breaking inside, it takes the heart of a champion to continue to fight.

 

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JDS has shown no vulnerability. His boxing is all that most people can seem to credit him for but its just a testament to how good he is at it. He's also a BJJ black belt, he just doesn't need to use it that much. His takedown defense is damn good too which is why he's able to stay on his feet and box so much. He's the naturally bigger man, JDS is a BIG man, 6'4" I think and a healthy and natural 245lbs. He's got great timing and he's a good finisher. He seems one dimensional only because he doesn't need to do anything else. I see a fight with him and Jones as primarily a stand-up fight and JDS's chin has been tested at heavyweight much more than Jones has. Jones has shown signs of being stunned at light heavyweight a few times, but I've never seen JDS stunned at all.

JDS looked his worst against Roy Nelson, this fight happened when I didn't really believe JDS was as good as people were making him out to be and after that fight, I thought, yea I'm right. But, it appears since that fight, he's shown what makes him so good. I'm willing to write-off that fight, JDS actually looked a little off that night, maybe he took Roy lightly, I don't know. He seemed to fatigue a bit in that fight even though he was beating the shit out of Roy.

I still have some reserves about Jones chin, I think he's got tons of talent, but the heavyweight division is a disaster without a good chin. This is the primary reason why no one can seem to hold the heavyweight belt more than 1-2 defenses, its just hard to do without getting clocked and finished. JDS has already defended it twice, and will likely defend again against Cain. That would be 3 title defenses which hasn't been done in over a decade.

 

Daniel Cormier is a better heavyweight than Cain. Cain's chin is lacking. He usually gets dropped or stunned in almost every fight, to his credit he's come back and won most of them but he has lost some too. DC has all the same tools that Cain has a better chin and wrestling. I think Cain should drop to LHW and leave the HW division to his training partner Daniel Cormier. DC is the the only man I see at heavyweight in the near future capable of beating JDS.

 

No argument from me there, but I think Cain's chin will fail him again in the second fight. It likely won't be quite as quick as last time, I think Cain may make it to the third round before getting clipped but I do believe it will still happen. Cain is most dangerous when he can apply constant forward pressure and keep his opponent backing up and covering up, JDS is not that opponent.

 

Cain's only loss is to JDS. He hasn't lost "Some" he lost one. I saw Cormier get left in a heap on the canvas in sparring with Mike Kyle on the show "Fight Factory".

Jon Jones has never been rocked in a fight, ever. He's got hit, but has reacted well.

 

He reacted by laying on the floor and not getting up.

 

JDS looks like he mostly focuses on boxing and does enough of grappling work to tighten his takedown defense. i mean, he's virtually unbeatable unless someone figures out a way to take him down and hold him there.

 

Cain's got the best chance to do this. Even though Carwin is a good wrestler, he's a friggin sloth and barely even uses wrestling because he's in love with his power and thinks he's going to knock everyone out.

 

i look at it this way. no matter how good of a striker cain is, he's still a wrestler first. when he gets hit, he doesn't know how to react other than to panic and go for a double leg. JDS on the other hand, knows how to get hit and recuperate while still standing. i see that a lot w/ wrestlers. even guys like jake ellenberger and johny hendricks, they're dangerous on their feet for the first five minutes and then they run out of options in terms of striking. and when they get hit, they don't know how to react while still standing up.

 

I know, I don't make much of it really. It was surprising to see as Cormier has looked great in actual fights. Beating Barnett is no easy task.

 

Cromier's a Fat Ass Though...Could U Imagine him & Big Country Fighting Each Other???...



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Cormier would beat the shit out of Roy. He's on another level.

 

He's Got B-Cup Tits, a GUT & Hardly Any Definition in his Arms...If Pro's were Allowed to Fight w/their Shirts ON, Cormier Would Be a Candidate...

To Be Blunt, He Looks like REED w/his Shirt Off, but REED is an UNdisciplined, "Regular Guy", whose Idea of "Training" is Hitting a Heavy Bag for 6 Rounds & Stopping @ the Nearest Beer Store Afterwards...

Yeah, Fedor was a BADASS, but he was FAT Too...




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Even the Roy of Today Boxes Circles Around Cormier...Sure, he'd Kill Roy in a Cage, but he'd Beat Roy Even MORE Decisively in a Competitive EATING Contest...Hotdogs, Hot Wings, Burgers, U Name It...



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Roy Nelson? I wasn't talking about RJJ.

 

Hell, Cormier just MIGHT Beat Nelson in Competitive Eating as Well...



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cormier wrestled at 211lbs in the olympics. that was 4 years ago. not sure what he weighed in his last few fights, but i doubt it'd be a walk in the park for him to make 205.

 

He already damaged his kidneys cutting weight in college. The only way he drops to 205 is if Cain beats JDS.