Valero Vs DeMarco predictions

Valero would beat the shit out of Chico. Standing and trading with Valero gets you a one way trip to the canvas and Corrales would have done that.

 

I could say exactly the same thing in reverse. Standing and trading with Chico gets you a one way trip to the canvas, and that's what would have happened to Valero.

Corrales hit much harder than Valero by the way. Valero has good power, but I haven't seen him knock fighters the fuck out with 1 punch like Chico did.

 

Yep. In fact, being a Valero fan I'm amazed that Steve Dave would want to see that fight ::

Valero is like a worse version of Pacman. Pacman is faster, more powerful, more skillful, better defense. Valero would give it a good go no doubt, but he would be beaten senseless.

 

Umm... actually its the other way around. Standing and trading with Chico was suicide. The way to defeat Corrales was by boxing him. And although Valero has skills, he doesnt have the type of skills of Floyd, and Casa.

In terms of one-punch power.... Corrales was superior to Valero.

 

Valero has much more skill then Chico. Hes faster and has better defence. Chico would last 5 rounds at most with Valero.

 

Valero is a better fighter all around the board then Corrales was. Corrales' only advantage imo was heart over Valero.

 

Valero-Pacman is a dream fight for me. I was dissapointed that Hatton and Pac came to terms last year. Valero-Pac would be a fight for the ages.

 

Valero vs Corrales definitely ends in KO...simply a matter of who got to whom first.

As high as valero carries his chin, it's not unreasonable to think Chico catches him flush and KO's him brutally.

On the other hand, Corrales couldn't get out of the way of straight lefthands from Casamayor...who never was a great puncher. Chico was down and hurt badly against Casamayor...lost two of three to him.

Can make a case for Valero winning on sheer power, not boxing ability (which kept Casamayor out of trouble mostly).

 

Valero is a stud. He looked great in there, which isnt really unexpected. Over came some adversity like it didn't bother him at all when he could've taken the easy way out.

He stalked DeMarco and put a beating on him from the get go. The press row scoring was ridiculous, DeMarco didnt win a round.

The last 3 rounds Valero looked exactly like he did when he was whuppin Morales in sparring years ago. Creating the distance and closing it whenever he felt like it to continue the beating.

 

You can make a case of Valero winning, but Chico proved he could survive getting hurt/knocked down and come back to win. Valero has yet to prove that.

I think he needs the move to 140 to get tested. Who's there to test him at 135? He'd send Juan Diaz, and Katsidis to the ER.

 

Honestly, I disagree. Like I said he would give it his best shot no doubt, but would be pretty much outclassed and outgunned. Pacman would stop Valero in 5 or 6 rounds. Valero would beat everyone at 135 and most people at 140, but he has nothing on Pacman, there is not one area where he has the advantage.

 

It'd be a dream beatdown if it happens anytime soon. Valero needs to wait until Manny has one foot in the grave before he thinks of fighting him.

 

He has slightly faster hands, but his punches are a bit more telegraphed. And Corrales generated incredible power up close, he would score KO's or knock guys down with punches that travelled 6 inches. Valero would come forward non stop, and would inevitably get smacked with a clean left hook at some point, and the chances of him taking are slim. The only guy who has managed to take Corrales' punches flush is Castillo, who is a huge lightweight with a great chin, and even he got KO'd in he first fight.

Valero would probably be winning the fight, but he would get KO'd.

 

I think youre wrong MWS. Some of Valeros punches are telegraphed sure, partly because of all the angles he throws from, but he definitely shortens punches up at different times throughout a fight when he wants to.

 

He's not an infighter though is he, he doesn't throw proper short, crisp, compact hooks like Corrales.

Like I said, Valero would probably be winning the fight against Chico, but unless he has one of the best chins of all time, I can't see a fighter as aggressive as him beating Corrales. He'd probably even drop or hurt Chico a couple of times in the early rounds, but Corrales had balls the size of watermelons and a shit load of heart.

 

I'd like to see him come up to 140

 

Chico would behead the little chubby Gremlin.

Jesus Christ you guys. ::

I know Chico didn't have the greatest chin but DeMarco walked right through Valero's shots all night long. Valero punches way to wide. Chico, long arms and all would step inside one of his loops and concuss him.

Chico had problems with Floyd and Casamayor because they were too fast for him. Valero is not that fast. Anybody who thinks he's quicker then Freitas has memory loss issues.

RJP4P I can almost forgive. He thinks the modern fighter evolves every 5 minutes and 2002 was the heyday of Thomas Edison and the Kinescope camera.

The rest of you. I am very disappointed in. :nono:

 

I'm not sold on the little fecker myself, he's a big fish in a little pond at 135. Lets see him at 140 where its a bit deeper.

 

Chico is getting the Hatton treatment, people have started to forget how good he was.

Granted, he fought like crap the night he lost to Floyd, as did Hatton, both for different reasons.

But Valero is no Mayweather, and Corrales would have been the hardest hitting fighter he has ever faced.

This notion of Diego landing bombs to no effect is quite laughable.

 

Having previously been completely miffed at the hype, I was legimitately impressed by Valero. And I like him, he is clearly a warrior, and going by Saturday's performance, I like his style and his aggression.

But let's not go overboard. Pacman would absolutely obliterate him and Corrales, as vulnerable as Corrales could be - nobody beats the pre-Castillo Corrales in a dogfight.

Even Duran, the best lightweight ever, would have had to fight carefully against Chico at 135, and be more defensive than usual.

There's a reason why nobody before Castillo was stupid enough to fight Corrales aggressively - he hit like a truck, and could knock guys out or seriously hurt them with a short left hook that travelled 6 inches.

 

100% agree. Valero looked excellent on Saturday but I've never been really impressed by DeMarco. Still..Chico? I don't think so.

 

The irony of these guys fighting is that Valero softened most of Manny's recent opponents up for him in sparring. Valero could have the shine that Manny has right now if he got to fight Manny's comp under the lights instead of in the dark.

 

I remember Valero getting thrown out of DLH's camp and saying he was beating him up easily and predicting Pac would beat him easily too. But I don't remember him being part of Hatton's or Cotto's camps, was he?

 

Innit. I too thought he looked very good, but people are acting like he just KO'd an elite fighter. Let's put it into perspective.

 

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Lets not go overboard now. Duarn woulda ended Chico's life before that motorcycle did.

 

RJP4P has a track record when it comes to either hating fighters to the point that they become utter, utter bums (Hatton) or invincible munsters who couldn't possibly lose to anyone, ever (Mayweather, Roy et al). Valero is his latest love interest, it seems...

MTF

 

What's with "fight fans" and this type of statement?

Chico fought Floyd the way he fought Castilo, Casamayor and Frietas...

he manged to get victories over those three but Floyd is a different animal.

Anyway...I haven't followed Valero's career closely so far......but I love a guy that has a 100% Ko record...with the first 15 or so fight all ending in the 1st round. I hope he becomes a superstar...and I'll be rooting for him in every fight.

We dont' know enough about his chin so far i guess to determine how he'd have fared against a Chico...but one has to assume that IF his chin is good..he'd have stopped Chico as well.

 

Don't get me wrong, Duran - Corrales would have been one sided and Duran would have won without a doubt. But he would have had to be careful though, and use his excellent defense to the max.

 

I've been high on Valero for a long time not since Saturday like most of the bandwagon jumpers on here.