Ward vs Froch

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  1. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

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    Ward is far better than I gave him credit for... he fought an excellent fight. I shall keep a closer eye on Andre Ward..

    As much as I like Froch and he did seem 'slower' than his usual self I don't think he can beat Ward in a re-match.
     
  2. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    When you compare what they go home with...Froch wins.
     
  3. Irish

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    Pound for pound?

    Frochs PfP claims are based largely on the win over Pascal, who went on to beat Dawson.

    But Pascal lost, probably twice, to Hopkins. Historic.
     
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  5. Irish

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    Froch should have been bringing his open glove side-down on the nape of Wards neck there. He'd soon give up the headbutts.
     
  6. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You're referring to the slapper Carl goes home to?
     
  7. Irish

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    Who does Ward go home with?
     
  8. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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  9. mexican wedding shirt

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    Ward goes home and furiously masturbates over paintings of Jesus, in an effort to eradicate the memories of all the underage girls he's raped, and whatever other atrocities he's commited in order for him to have metamorphosed into such a preaching douchebag that calls himself "The Son of God" :lol:
     
  10. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yep....

    Skills when you outjab the guy....


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    Skills: when you slip a jab then make the guy fall face first into yours...



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  11. Double L

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    Ward's got this whole born again evangelical thing going that's ridiculous and embarrassing. S.O.G.? Who? Him?

    Anyway, good performance by Ward. Somehow or another, he can't seem to punch. And I'm not a fan of his style. But clearly, he's proven himself the man to beat at 168. And I don't give Bute much of a chance to beat him.
     
  12. Muzse

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    Skills: (in case you missed it the first time) how you step inside a longer jab to land your own...



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  13. Double L

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    What's with Frosh by the way? He looked like dog-shit. He squares up without even bending his legs. And coming forward it wasn't uncommon for him to step with his rear leg. He looked like he'll I thought.
     
  14. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I was fine with the overall tournament, at least in terms of getting the best to face each other. What I meant in my comparison, is that it took so long that I was anxious for it to just end. Similar to last night's fight, which was absolutely necessary, but not a particularly memorable fight beyond what was at stake.

    but that's what I meant - that the fight wasn't memorable, not the tournament.

    Where the tournament went wrong was including three American "promoters" whose mentality is always take the money and run. Goossen, Shaw, DiBella, none of them give a shit about selling tickets, just getting their network welfare check. The tournament should've taken place in Europe and Canada, as evidenced by last night's papered house and fictional attendance number.
     
  15. Irish

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    Yeah I can't disagree, maybe if Ward can drop the Jesus Piece routine and stop putting his elbow behind his jab he'll draw in more fans.
     
  16. Irish

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    That's why I called him the poor mans Vitali. Vitali does everything wrong correctly. Froch does everything correct wrongly. If you are going to have the hands-down style, you better have some escape plans.
     
  17. Slice N Dice

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    That's the one. Give me sympathy sex with Miss Cordingley over a celebratory shag with Mrs Ward any day. :kidcool:
     
  18. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

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    Agreed about the tv packagers/promoters who didnt give a shit about the promoting aspect. However, if Ward was promoted by a real American promoter like Arum, say, would this even have happened? I'd guess he'd be fighting the same leftovers Bute fought or even worse...
     
  19. who?

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    i agree with this.
     
  20. Irish

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    Why was Ward gassed?


    Also, {not at you} I've been doing a bit of non-FB reading, some of the comments about Frochs missus betray a crude side to some aspects of Wards fandom.
     
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    He hasn't screamed like Hopkins just yet,.. but the pot is starting to boil. I think the apparent undeserved score of 115 - 113 has probably settled him for now,..but press releases in England are available to him 24 hours a day,.. like Cool Hand Luke,.. come on baby,.. pop!
     
  22. Irish

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    50 seemed like a round number. 115-113 leaves.....options. Its Frochs own fault for not having a Plastic Jesus on his dashboard. Carl, what went wrong? I don't know Arletta.
     
  23. Double L

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    It's interesting to wonder what kind of fighter it will be who manages to beat Ward. He'll have to be skilled, but he'll also need to be strong and offensive. A 168 pound Lupe Pintor may what's needed. Ward will likely be champ for a while.
     
  24. steve_dave

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    I still think Ward/Bute would be an interesting scrap.. although I'd take Ward to wear him down.
     
  25. Slice N Dice

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    It'll be a while as Calzaghe already retired
     
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    I don't think Bute gives him much of a fight to be honest. Bute is OK, but nothing special. Ward is faster, more skilled, and craftier in the ring, and a better infighter, and better defense etc.

    Bute's only advantage is power, I give him a puncher's chance basically.
     
  27. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He is hard to like.

    I would love to see Bute/Ward, not because it would be competitive. It wouldn't be. Ward will rape him. The only fighter more disgusting than Ward is Bute. Bute is garbage.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Andre Ward is the Tim Tebow of boxing around here.
     
  29. Double L

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    Andre Ward is versatile. He can smother guys who can hit him on the outside, or out-box guys who are super slow. Ward's smothering is counter-intuitive to many, who think his best bet against the likes of Bika is to fight on the outside, but the fact is, by getting so close and tieing up his opponent's arm, Ward has much more control and can avoid big punches he doesn't see on the outside.
     
  30. Neil

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    bute can fight and is way better than froch. id like to see him and ward
     

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