Ward vs Kovalev 2 upon us.

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  1. Muzse

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    That's the very last blow in the sequence. Kovalev had taken some serious shots prior to that. The two before then were on the belt line which are good shots.
     
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    I'm more convinced Kov thought that last one would be called low and he'd get 5 mins, as opposed to him actually being seriously hurt by it..

    Mr Super Chin was getting spanked in that sequence.
     
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    Ward got a TKO by throwing 3 consecutive low blows.

    I'm in Cabo on vacation. It was pretty funny seeing Kellerman basically high five Ward through the interview and then see Ward get pissed off and end the interview with the Mexican guy when he asked him about the lowblows. Ward's a fraud.
     
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    It looked like Kovalev was losing control of the fight and when he opened up out of desperation he got countered and hurt. Yay Ward. But that doesn't make the ridiculous ending any more absurd. Ward doesn't stop anybody without combos to the balls and Kovalev is a KO puncher so acting like the fight was over anyway is some clown shit. And I'd wager that anyone's that says otherwise have genetic similarities...
     
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    And you know Max's wigger ass is going to be shooting spittle all over ESPN talking about how amazing a victory it was for Ward. Him and Shteeffen A. Shcmiff.
     
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    Wigger? This post suggests to me that you're a racist
     
  8. Double L

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    Max definitely does show an allegiance to African Americans.
     
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    to even think this suggests you guys have racial issues. Just think of these guys as boxers not African American boxers

    I never saw this fight as black vs white but apparently you and terp do
     
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    Btw isn't kellerman high on Lomachenko? What the fuck are you guys talking about? What has race to do with anything ?
     
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    yeah the way they were acting like ward was this mastermind who had it all figured really turned me off SOG, who I generally like. Just playing dumb like those low blows didn't happen.
     
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    Ah man, glad I didn't make the long drive to see this fight at my buddy's house. I would have just ended up driving home mad.

    I like Ward, but this definitely seemed bullshit, and way to early in the fight to declare anything was a foregone conclusion.
     
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    I do not. I am just referring to max's obvious preference for "slick boxers."
     
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    I'm surprised more isn't made out of the b.s finish. If the exact same thing happened to a popular American boxer in say Germany or Russia the uproar would go through the roof. Kov clearly grabs his balls and ref calls it a TKO just like that ? Lol has the ref been interviewed or anything at all ? What a joke.
     
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    In Twitter Weeks admitted both missing earlier low blows and blowing the call at the end. Not that it matters anymore
     
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    The very last of those shots was low. The others weren't. The ones which doubled him over prior to that sequence were not.

    Guys are acting as though Kovalev wasn't in trouble and hurt prior to the final sequence. Should Weeks have stopped it at that point, probably not. Things were decidedly going downhill for the guy. He was hurt and doubled over by two solid body shots, hurt to the head and yet by the recount of the fight you'd think this was Golota vs. Bowe.
     
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    What pisses me off the most is that it was already a decent fight and it was just beginning to heat up with the potential to be a classic when Weeks stopped it. I won't forgive that cunt for that
     
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    From now on big fights should only have Steve smoger or frank cappuccino officiating because those guys let the fighters brutalize each other
     
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    Bullshit...

    So Just Because Kellerman is MORE Complimentary of Black Fighters than YOU Could Ever Bother Yourself to Be, is Some Show of "Allegiance"???...

    If That's the Case, YOU'RE a GOTdamn Racist for Never 1nce Giving Roy Jones a Shred of Credit, Even as he DEFECATED Upon YOUR Predictions...




    REED:cool:
     
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    Kovalev is a KO Puncher who LACKED Snap on his Punches for a Couple Rounds PRIOR to the 8th...

    Only in YOUR 3rd World, B-Scene, CASUAL Ass Mind was Kovalev Going to Get MORE Powerful in the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th...




    REED:cool:
     
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    Funny How EVERYfuckingBODY is Conveniently Dancing AROUND This, Isn't It???...

    Boxing Fans are THE Absolute Worst...Instead of Formulating an Opinion Over the ENTIRE Round (and Fight), They're Focused on the END of the Round, Solely...

    COUNTLESS Posters are BITCHING, While Only a Handful Have CREDITED Ward for Legitimately TAKING Kovalev's Body and Badly Hurting Him w/a Headshot...

    As You've Stated, it's as If Kovalev was COASTING to an Easy Win, Got Caught w/a Low Blow and Weeks Immediately Jumped In to Stop the Fight...



    REED:rolleyes:
     
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    Worst Part about Twerp is he 1nce Had the AUDACITY to Tell REED he was Black:D...

    As if ANY Black Man Would Consistently Bitch ABOUT Blacks or Voice Anti-Black Sentiments to the Degree Twerp Does...

    Based on his Fighter Preferences and Posts, it's Pretty Obvious Twerp is of 3rd World Lineage, and the Size of a Middle School Boy...





    REED:cool:
     
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    Guilty as Charged...




    REED:cool:
     
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    1nce you See the Fight w/Your OWN Eye's, You'll Realize how Offbase the MAJORITY is on this 1, Nobes...

    The Stoppage Itself was Shitty, but Kovalev Exhibited DEFEATIST Body Language Prior to the Low Blows...And Even After the Stoppage, Kovalev NEVER Complained to the Ref, NOR Did Anyone from his Corner, that REED Saw...

    It Wasn't DEFINITIVELY Over for Kovalev, but it Would've Taken Some Sly Stallone Scripted, Miracle Finish to Not Only Replenish Kovalev's LOST Stamina/Power, but to Reverse the Tide of Ward's Momentum...

    And, Like REED Said Last Night, it's NOT as If Ward was Going to All of a Sudden IGNORE Kovalev's Body, had the Bout Continued...





    REED:cool:
     
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    Just Rewatched the Bout (for the 3rd Time) and agREED...

    As You Pointed Out Last Night, Not 1nce was Kovalev Hit w/a NUT Shot...Of the Blows that Deviated Below the Belt Line, REED Recalls 1 to the Right Hip and Others Where the Protective Cup is...

    As Roy Jones Pointed Out, Kovelev's Cup Came Up OVER his Belt Line, So the Area Ward's Shots were Landing was PROTECTED...The ONLY Time Ward Threw Up and Under "Nut Shot" Type of Low Blows was in the Finishing Salvo...

    Nonetheless, Kovalev REACTED Like he was Getting Hit w/Nut Shots, Several Rounds Earlier, Particularly On the Hip Shot REED Referenced...He Did it Again Earlier in the 8th on Belt Line Shots...

    CLEARLY, Kovalev was SELLING the Illegality of Ward's Bodyshots, Even the Legal 1's...At the End, he Definitely Looked MORE like a Guy Needing a BREAK, Than Someone Who was Completely FINISHED...

    Either Way, Kovalev was in a Place MENTALLY, Where he Felt he NEEDED Assistance...





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    I watched it once last night and once today...the Russian feed is on Youtube which is good because I don't understand the commentary.

    It was a good fight, Kovalev fought well early. I had it 4-3 or 5-2 for Kovalev. A couple of the rounds were close and could have gone either way. Even with Kovalev at 5-2 I didn't think the fight was out of reach or he had established any semblance of control.

    Ward landed that same right hand several times over the previous 7 rounds. The one that changed the course of the fight came against a tiring fighter. There's no doubt Ward would have gone back to that shot over the next couple rounds after continually going to the body.

    With all of that said, the fight shouldn't have been stopped. Not at that point it was a bit premature. Weeks was looking to step in and stop the fight maybe 10 seconds prior and once he saw Kovalev double over that last time that's when he wrongly stepped in. The last shot in the final three shots was low but it wans't like Ward did it purposely in my opinion.

    Finally, immediately after the big right hand pay attention to the CLEAN body shots Kovalev took. You have to take the totality of the round not focus on one punch. Kovalev was in serious trouble.
     
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    I agree with this. Ward had beat the fight out of Kovalev at that point and you could see signs of this as early as the 4th. I had Kovalev up 5-2 at the time of the stoppage as he had been winning the majority of the battles but ward was slowly but surely winning the war and he would have eventually stopped Kovalev anyway. Kovalev looked as though he was looking for an easy way out. He couldn't discourage ward with his punches and this was causing himself to get discourage and in addition to that wards body punches were killing him. Kov was hurt by that right hand and was floundering all over the ring and ward was just trying to take him out. Very difficult to imagine a scenario where kovakev could turn around that tide
     
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    Agreed word for word
     
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    You're splitting hairs and it's ridiculous but let me explain why. The last punch Ward landed was CLEARLY a low blow and Kovalev doubled over and that's when Weeks stopped the fight. This means Ward KO'd Kovalev with a low blow. That's an outrage and you seem to be ok with it because other shots before that weren't low. Even if all of the shots would've been above the belt and clearly legal, Weeks should not have stopped the fight at that point. The fact that the last shot was clearly low and Kovalev clearly complained he was hit low and was bent over in paint AND THIS is what prompted Weeks to stop the fight is fucking bullshit. Why the fuck are you ok with that?
     
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    I'll definitely watch the replay and get back this weekend.

    Just from what I saw, that's gotta be an annoying stoppage no matter who you were a fan of though. Robbed both guys of a definitive outcome.

    I mean, when De La Hoya took that body shot from Hopkins, he had to roll around on the canvas and take a full 10 count before the ref would stop it for him.

    Man, I always forget the fight where the guy kept on going down from body blows and the ref kept on ruling them slips.........while the guy who was getting knocked down was begging the ref to count him out because he was getting his ass kicked and he wanted out. I think the guy was a prospect at one point.
     

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