Was Felix "Tito" Trinidad an ELITE Fighter???

Trinidad>>Martinez

 

This. Ask Bernard if Tito were elite or not and he will tell you.

 

Honestly not at all.

I'll freely admit I am a hater of Hamed and Tszyu. Hamed was just a loathsome, ducking little twat with a big mouth, and Tszyu was an overrated fighter with a greasy rat tail, who made me feel kind of sick to look at.

Tito though, I don't find him annoying at all really, and he was in some good fights, and doesn't have an annoying fighting style either.

Plain and simple, I just think he was - and still is - really, really overrated.

He was a top tier puncher who beat some good fighters, but got clowned by the 3 best fighters of his career and exposed as being very 1 dimensional and basic. That's just a fact, that's not being a "hater".

 

"Elight"

 

Of course he was. What a curious question.

 

Elite isn't specific but to me I'd imagine that would be championship level fighters so yeah clearly elite

 

Let's assume Tito didn't load his gloves and thus did not wield the illegal power of a foreign object. In that case, he was clearly elite. As merchant once said, his punches were well conceived. It's true. He had a unique style. And for all the talk of how basic he was, he sure beat up a lot of good fighters. Again. Assuming it was all on the up and up.

He had a strange rhythm to his style. I was always impressed by the efficiency of his body shots. He'd slip them in there in a way completely different than most fighters. And his jab too was deceptively effective. Not quick. But well timed. And it's power made it perfect for setting up other shots. Remember when he put Vargas on queer street with a jab he barely threw? After that it was an orgy of power shots. Power shot. Power shot.

 

word.

 

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There was a METHOD to REED's Madness...

It SHOULD Be a No Brainer, but as You Can See, 2 of the 19 that Voted, Felt Trinidad was LESS than Elite...




REED:mj:

 

You DO Realize the Only "Issue" Tito Ever had was w/the AMOUNT of Gauze, Right???...He was NEVER Accused of Loading his Gloves w/Plaster Inserts or Anything of the Sort...

Naazim Richardson had an Issue w/the AMOUNT of Gauze Team Trinidad Used, No MORE, No LESS...

Perhaps You've CONFUSED Felix Trinidad w/Antonio Margarita???...





REED:dunno:

 

Was also tape.

 

Right, but You've Spoken about Tito as if he was a Margarita Level, Cheating GLOVE LOADER, for MORE than a Decade Now...

He WASN'T...





REED:mj:

 

The way Trinidad wrapped was actually LEGAL in other states, just not in New York. It was mostly ignorance on the part of the Trinidads.

But it wasn't something drastic either. It's not like Paulie Malginaggi would become a devastating puncher if we wrapped his hands with an extra layer of guaze and tape.

Margarito on the other hand, actually had a BLOCK in each wrap... And lets assume Margarito loaded his wraps for his entire career(Just for argument's sake), he was STILL never a knock out puncher. Even in the first fight with Cotto, it took an ACCUMULATION of punches. He never once hurt Cotto with just one punch. It was the constant BARRAGE that eventually brought Cotto to his knees.

But I never recall Margarito putting someone down and out the way Trinidad did Blocker, Zulu, Lueshing, etc. And looking at the likes of Vargas and Reid, they sure didn't look as bad as Cotto did after that first fight with Margarito. Now there are a lot of factors I agree.

Just like we can't just assume that Margarito loaded his wraps for every fight, I don't think there's any CONCRETE evidence to suggest that Trinidad loaded his wraps.

 

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15 title</SPAN> de</SPAN></SPAN>fe</SPAN></SPAN>nse</SPAN></SPAN>s? He</SPAN>ll, elit</SPAN></SPAN>e or not isn't </SPAN></SPAN>eve</SPAN></SPAN>n the</SPAN></SPAN> question</SPAN></SPAN>. The</SPAN></SPAN> que</SPAN></SPAN>stion is, is he</SPAN></SPAN> an all time</SPAN></SPAN> gre</SPAN></SPAN>at. </SPAN></SPAN>
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Trinidad was a much better fighter than what he showed in that crappy Stinky Winky fight.

 

Richardson said his wraps were hard like casts, trinidads

 

Seinfeld did a thing about this.

 

Did Seinfeld feel the need, to make fun about this? Of course he did!



What's much worse is REED opening the thread with a question and then answering it in the very next post... ::

 

For all we know he was probably just being dramatic. What Richardson said was never proven to be accurate.

 

maybe, or maybe not. bouie fishers son says the same thing. said his wraps were like cement and took them forever to remove them to re wrap.

 

Just watch Trinidad/Joppy. He was obviously cheating.