weighted chins are awesome

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  1. Neil

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    what constitutes a muscle up?
     
  2. LOK

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  3. Neil

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    lok are u able to bring your arms straight out like a T on the rings as gymnasts do?
     
  4. LOK

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    Iron cross they call it..

    not sure.. I do not have rings
     
  5. Roll With The Punches

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    can you do muscle ups lok?

    do you think they're mainly about strength or technique?

    i've seen people do them and it seemed like they used alot of swinging and momentum :dunno:
     
  6. Buddy Rydell

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    If I tried one in my basement, I'd knock myself out. I can't get one yet, but I will after I get up to chinning half my bodyweight.
     
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    what does chinning half your bodyweight have to do with it? haha technically you only need to be able to do one chin up
     
  8. Buddy Rydell

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    Wrong. You need a lot of strength in your rotator cuffs and stabilizer muscles. Plus I want to be able to shoot up the rope like I used to. All of this requires significant changes in pulling strength.
     
  9. Buddy Rydell

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    10 reps with 5lbs. Looks like I'm off to a good start. I'll go up in weight fairly quickly.:crafty:
     
  10. Roll With The Punches

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    5 lbs of weight cut your reps from 20 to 10??
     
  11. Buddy Rydell

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    No, I cut back a few days ago when I got sick. I could get more if I tried, but I'll max between 12-15 reps before I go up in attached weight.
     
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    Buddy, out of curiosity, how many less pull ups do you manage than Chins? I never really trained overhand style for some reason and when I tried it the other week I was pretty shocked I could only do about a third as many reps that way as underhand.

    Normal, or am I just really imbalanced due to not training them?
     
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    What is a chin?
     
  14. Buddy Rydell

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    Sounds like you're just unbalance from not training them. I haven't done underhanded ones in quite some time, but they were always much easier than overhand because it takes much stronger rear deltoid muscles to do widegrip overhand chins.

    Pullups are easier, but I haven't done any of those in awhile.
     
  15. LOK

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    most people do Chins (palms facing you) easier than Pullups (palms facing out)

    both pulls use your lats (back muscles) but the chins have more help of your bicep
     
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    so which have you guys been doing this whole time :lol:?

    i do palms facing in and shoulder width grip most often, and do this way whenever i use weight
    and here and there i do a little wider with palms out to mix it up
     
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    I have been doing both but I do "chins" more than pulls..
     
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    I need to try this
     
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    When I hear of widegrip chins, the palms are facing out. I thought pullups were slightly different.
     
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    By the way, Joe, wouldn't you rip in half if you attempted a chinup? [​IMG]

    Just teasing you, dude. What are your dimensions? Do you do chins?[​IMG]
     
  21. LOK

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    generally here (USA)

    CHIN= palms in
    Pullup = palms out

    pullups are done with all widths of grips.. including wide

    chins are usually a much closer grip
     
  22. Buddy Rydell

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    Well, I started weighed chins today, and I did 5 sets of 6 with a 10lb weight so far. I know I can do more, but I want to keep the enthusiasm going and lately I've been feeling a bit wornout and stagnant.

    I'm gonna grease the groove this week, and see how I'm feeling next weekend. I'll add weights to my vest for the whole winter, and be doing sets of 10 with at least 50lbs by the summer.
     
  23. Buddy Rydell

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    This is no sweat, so I'm gonna keep it up all winter. I did three sets of 6 with the same weight this morning when I woke up at 5:30. It's a piece of cake.:bears:
     
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    let me ask this. does it matter what time frame u do these pullups or chinups in? I usually do sets of 10 sporadically throughout the day since I workout strictly at home. is it better to just do your entire workout in a half hour as opposed to just whenever?
     
  25. LOK

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    i thinnk throught the day is the way really
     
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    If you can space them out throughout the day, you are basically able to do the same reps for the same exercise at any time. That is better than getting it all done quick in my book because the "grease the groove" training philosophy means sub-maximal adaptation throughout the day. You shouldn't really be trying too hard to get the chins done. Just do'em whenever you go near the chinup bar.

    If you are trying to build muscle, do it all at once. If you're using "grease the groove", then do it throughout the day.:bears:
     
  27. Buddy Rydell

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    Well, last week I was superbusy and got away from doing these, which is a shame. This week I'll be doing them daily, nightly, and ever-so-rightly! :partie:
     
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    Did a few sets of 7 with the 10lb weight. As soon as I do 10 reps, I'll up the weight.
     
  29. LOK

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    try supersetting them with pushups Buddy.. I been doing that some lately..

    for example, a quick 5 chins, imediatly drop and do 5 pushups, jump up to bar and do 5 chins, back down 5 pushups.. etc.. until done
     
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    I would, but right now I do a fair amount of circuit training. I don't want to overdo it because years ago I tore a bicep muscle by doing too much at once without adequate recuperation.
     

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