Were Catterall/Kambosos BETTER Than We Thought OR Were Taylor/Lopez WORSE Than We Thought???

Josh aint goin fuckin 11 rounds with Crawford. Lol. Porter is far more durable, and didn't do that.

How last night played out, it looked like even if Taylor was 100%, Catt would not have been a walk in the park.

Josh always pushes the action. We all know it doesn't end well when guys push Crawford.

Once he turns up the heat, what's Taylor's answer gonna be? He doesn't have a single advantage, and thats rare to say.

Crawford is quite literally better at EVERRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY fucking thing.

 

Yeah, and yet Postol isn't and managed to see the final bell. Benavidez isn't as tough as Porter but went to the twelfth with just one leg.

If Taylor was sharp and on weight, Catterall would've been a walk in the park. Easily.

Crawford isn't Julian Jackson. He won't shift into overdrive and immediately every single shot could end the fight. Taylor would fight back, and it'd be competitive for a short time. Then it'd take rounds of wearing Taylor down.

Taylor would not get stopped in six. That is quite literally the end of fucking discussion.

 

Oh, ok. You've announced it's the end of discussion. Guess it ends there .

You literally just a month ago said that Josh Taylor would stop Cotto. You dont think that geeee, you might overrate him a bit?

 

And you think he'd get stopped in the same round as an inactive Amir Khan.

Take a look at how you're rating him yourself.

 

Yeah, Khan fought negatively. I was right there. His punk ass cost me hundreds of dollars.

Josh wouldn't fight to survive. He'd try to war with Crawford, which would expedite his end.

 

Guys Donald Curry ktfo better guys than Lloyd Honeyghan. At some point we have to make a serious adult consideration for Taylors weight issues.

It's got to be factored in. ...you simply cannot ignore the detrimental effects of cutting lean tissue .

It affects chin, skin, speed, accuracy, refkexes etc

I saw Taylor hit with far far harder shots than the ones Adderall troubled him with and dropped him with....like Vs Ramirez. When Taylor gotbuo he clearly had his wits about him. But his legs were gone....that's classic draining

 

Its off subject, but Curry's loss to Honeyghan was NOT 100% because of the weight. Was it a contributing factor? I'm sure it was, but Curry looked fine until the second round when Honeyghan rocked him, and Don fell apart from there.

Curry had a bad flaw of pulling straight back. McCrory, Jones, Starling, ect, couldn't expose it, but Honeyghan was quick and unorthodox enough to expose it.

 

My issue is that Josh might lack the tools to succeed at 147. And mainly, im talking about against the big 3 of welterweight southpaws.

Josh on his BEST day barely scraped past Regis. Crawford, Spence, and Ennis are simply a level, or even two levels, above Prograis. Taylor relies a lot on his physical strength, and Crawford, Spence, Ennis, and Vergil are all physically stronger than him... on top of being more gifted.

Its gonna be quite the challenge for Josh to compete with the elite of 147.

The best he can hope for is fighting faded Brook.

 

It's funny, I've always thought that too. Honeyghan used a herky jerky movement in that fight, skipping straight into range, unloading then skipping out.

OK Curry was no doubt weight drained and underperformed but he had zero success in that fight and got lit up and beat up. Honeyghan could be quite a cute, skilled fighter before he unseated Curry and decided to become an undisciplined brawler instead.

 

Yup! Exactly.

Honeyghan was no mug. He was a pretty damn talented fighter. Honeyghan would have bashed Kell Brook, for example.

I think people feel Curry should have destroyed him because they incorrectly put Curry on this Leonard/Hearns pedestal.

Curry got beaten from pillar to post starting in the second round, then quit on his stool. If he was fresh at the weight, would it really have been THAT dramatic of a turnaround?

I think it's probable that Honeyghan just had his number. Like Starling had Honeyghan's number, and Curry had Starling's number.

 

Agreed, in the 1st, it seemed like Lopez would overwhelmed Kambosos quite easily before he got caught. His game is all about imposing himself using his speed and power but it seems there's not a lot of ''depth'' to it. Still too early to call him exposed, especially considering his age, but still worrisome

 

Lopez wasn't as exposed as an out and out fraud; he remains an excellent fighter. However, he was exposed for not being the generational type fighter we thought he might be.

 

I don’t see Taylor succeeding against the top guys at 147 lbs.

He’ll even struggle against the faded Brook I think.

 

All three guys Brook has lost to are far far better fighters than Josh. Take from that what you will, but Brook beating Taylor wouldn't be a shock at all.

 

Lopez didn't go all out for a first round ko vs lomachenko. He fought much more measured.

Lopez also could have easily scored a ko later when he had the kid hurt. Rather than just moving his hands to get the stoppage he was looking for a high light reel kill shot

 

Vinny Pazienza would have out-boxed both Fimo and Taylor