Were Margarito's Gloves Loaded against Cotto?

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RECENCY!!! RECENCY!!!!!!

 

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Irish, have you ever considered practicing law? I know you are very interested in it

 

Plenty of them shook those hands though.

 

And what would they have felt? His palm and wrist, the same thing you feel when you shake any hand. We're not talking about a reinforced steel joint here, its a slim cord of plaster located on an already-raised, knuckle part of the glove, and below a few layers of perfectly legal cotton. At best, the thumb comes down over the wrist or just behind the knuckles, not the knuckles themselves. And they would have been looking at his face, under the lights, the din of the crowd....etc.....nah....they would have missed it.

Look at it like this........imagine I give you a mathematical conundrum, and give you the answer to same. You can use the answer and the question itself to develop the method to solving the problem.

They would have found the wraps if they had known to go looking for them. They were right there. A knife on its own is suspicious. A knife with a spoon and fork is innocuous, innocent. A man with his gloves off, celebrating a win, shaking hands, with no context.....he was home-free.

 

I have a degree in it, but Fightbeat needs me to stay here and learn these young hoodlums!!

 

you do?

why aren't you practicing?

you have the distinctly Irish intellectual love of argument... you should be shouting a summation in front of a jury... my grandfather could have and should have been a lawyer, but he joined the NYPD because my Nana didn't want him wasting time and money on school (she later admitted she held him back) ... Do it for my late grandad, won't you?

you could be Ireland's Clarence Darrow

 

after bashing cottos face in with these alleged plaster fists, dont you think his handwraps would look and feel different than normal clean wraps? i mean everyone here seems to claim the guy had casts on his hands for that bout. seems like a bold move to just be parading around the ring with the evidence available for anyone to see or feel.

 

sounds like we may need to do a bit of an experiment. what say you let me bash your face and midsection in for half an hour with some normally wrapped hands with this plaster device you speak of, underneath a pair of 8 ounce reyes gloves. then afterward we can see if casual observers shaking my hand after the severe thrashing i administered will notice any difference or impropriety.

 

If Luis Resto could go 10 rounds with no padding on his knuckles, basically smashing Billy Collins with a leather-bound cast to the point where Collin's face looked like it had been hit by a fire extinguisher with nobody noticing a thing until, by luck, Collins' dad just happen to pat the top of the guy's glove... I'd say it's possible for a carefully concealed piece of hardened tape to go unnoticed

 

resto was caught and correct me if im wrong but that was hardly a fight the magnitude of margarito-cotto with the world watching. its possible but highly unlikely

 

No, it wasn't, true, it was an insider's type of fight, the hot prospect Collins against the respected journeyman Resto on the undercard of Duran/Moore

but he was caught only by a fluke... if Collins Sr. hadn't gone to give him a congratulatory little pat on the hand, no one would have found out... and his hands were far more blatantly compromised than Margarito's

 

This was the MAIN Undercard Bout of a DURAN Fight in New York...Duran was HUGE in NYC...Davey Moore was a Kid FROM New York, who had Been Featured on NBC Quite a Few Times...He was the DEFENDING Champion & Would've Been a 1980 Olympian, if Not for Donald Curry...

Duran-Moore was a NOTEWORTHY Fight for Sure...

Getting Back to the Point, Billy Collins was ALSO a Noteworthy Fighter, Having Been on ESPN a Few Times, if REED's Not Mistaken...Resto was Certainly Supposed to TEST Collins, but it was a Mini Upset that he BEAT Collins...

There were PLENTY of Peeps WATCHING that Fight...KNOWLEDGEABLE Boxing People...@ Least 2 Commentating Crews (REED PERSONALLY has 2 Copies of Duran-Moore w/DIFFERENT Broadcast Teams)...



REED:Lok:

 

the guy was caught, nonetheless. margarito wasnt. he couldve simply kept his gloves on after the victory. wouldnt have been the first time someone has done that. but he didnt

 

i suppose Margarito should have cut the hand wraps off and risk the plaster inserts falling out? Or maybe they should have just left the ring immediately? No suspicion there. Or they could have all crowded around Marg as they took his handwraps off and put them in a secret bag right away?

as pointed out - Resto walked around all relaxed and unconcerned about his tampered gloves... so because he walked around like there was no problem this is proof that he didn't tamper with his gloves? That's fucking preposterous.

look no one knows the answer to this, but do you think that Margarito's trainer thought THAT much more of Shane Mosley? So much so that after his fighter just destroyed Cotto (who beat MOsley), he thought well let's put some plaster inserts in his gloves this one time just to be safe and give him that little bit of an advantage?

Come on. Neil if this is because you met the guy and "he's really a nice guy" and you can't fathom that he cheated because he gave you a good interview and was such a gentleman then come off it.... the former CEO of my company was a wonderful guy to joke and laugh with and have a couple beers - he was a piece of shit who fucked over the company and then bailed (aka retired) when it came time to take responsibility. a friend of mine knew sammy sosa back in the day and she said he was the nicest guy she ever met..... clearly that means he couldn't have taken any steroids.

 

actually margarito struck me as an arrogant prick the times i met him. he lived high on the hog after beating cotto and had a shitty camp for mosley.

 

ah so margarito had a bad camp and that is why the trainer slipped some plaster in there just this one time before the mosley fight?

 

could be why. there is zero evidence that he slipped any plaster in there against cotto. it has been clearly proven he had a shit camp for mosley.

 

Even Back when REED was Rightfully Bashing Margarita on Boxing Fanatics, Neil DEFENDED him for Some Strange Reason...




REED:dancingBaby:

 

musta been here cuz ive been banned from that site for several years now. aside from a brief two day return prior to a lifetime ban.

 

CLEARLY, Cotto was the BIGGER Threat than Mosley was...The Biggest Threat of Margarita's CAREER, in Fact...No One in their RIGHT Mind Should Give Margarita the BENEFIT of the Doubt in the Cotto Fight, ESPECIALLY when U Consider the MANNER in Which Cotto's Face was Sliced & Diced...

Dude ALSO Cheated in the Sebastian Lujan Fight, which was just PRIOR to Margarita's 1st PPV Main Event, vs. Kermit Cintron...



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After Beating Cintron in '05, Margarita Started Getting a Bit MORE Messageboard Hype than his Talent Warranted & REED Started Bringing Attention to It...You Been Banned from BF for 6 Years???...



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yes

 

he didnt cheat against cintron also then? how about shotgun gomez? according to you he cheated in ac, vegas and la. fooled 3 different commissions apparently.

 

Neil, those commissions are populated by a sublime blend of incompetent, dumb, corrupt officials.

 

definitely true on the plaster vs. cotto. i don't think anyone is saying that they can prove it. It's all opinion. I think he loaded for Cotto. Can't prove it.

Wasn't there something on HBO where they showed a red dusty residue that was supposed to be from the plaster inserts on his handwraps? and they showed that it was present after the cotto fight?

 

Here is how it works for me: are we expected to believe that he did it, for the very very very first time, for the Mosley fight??

I don't buy it.

 

PRECISELY...

The Mosley Fight DOESN'T Top the List of Bouts that Team Margarita Would've SOUGHT (& RECEIVED) the Most Benefit from Cheating in....


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He was getting hyped back when he beat Six Heads (after Mayorga iirc). I always thought he was pretty bad, I couldn't believe it when he beat Cotto.

 

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Margarito is a thick cunt. He has no brains. He is not intelligent. You mistook his arrogance for a sub-human IQ.