What happens if Shane lands the same right hands...

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How does Manny take them?

Poll closed May 6, 2011.
  1. He eats them up

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  2. He is hurt like Floyd was but keeps his head, holds, moves, recovers

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  3. He is hurt like Floyd was, goes to war and throws the whole fight into risk

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  4. He takes a nap

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  1. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    This question still interests me! Looking forward to the early rounds of this one, could be exciting.:mj: If Manny gets drilled with something he ain't gonna clinch spoil or run, it's not in his nature.
     
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  2. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Can't wait for this one. I think shane will continue that record of his by not being stopped inside the distance, but will be under serious pressure late on from the pac man.
     
  3. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    If Pac gets through the first four he's gonna absolute decimate Shane. For the sake of Shane's health I hope he gets stopped.
     
  4. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    What network is this fight on?
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    This fight is very intriguing. Many expect pac to steam roll through shane, many expect shane to cause manny many problems and go the distance, many expect that a big right hand shot, from shane, could end the fight. Intriguing, definitely. Shane won't have aged too much in the ring 12 months on from fighting floyd. I expect a tough opening 3-5 rounds for pac, but should be ahead on the scorecards, he should pretty much land at will, possibly stopping shane around the 10th or 11th round.
    Shane early on is quite dangerous, but I don't think he has the power, now, to flatten manny, nor do I think manny will flatten shane.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Forget the first 5 rounds...after TWO rounds it's all over for Shane unless he managed to hurt Manny significantly to either head or body by that point.

    If Manny is unscathed after 2 rounds he BUTCHERS Shane mercilessly no question. Could end up a fatality to be honest....:34:
     
  7. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Agree. I've said all along - Shane has to RISK getting stopped and just go out swinging early. His only chance is an early KO.

    If he goes out feinting and respectful in that first 90 seconds like he has in recent fights this ones pretty much done & dusted, in my mind.
     
  8. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    To answer the thread:

    manny woul dbe hurt just like Floyd was but he'd recover quickly as well and proceed to whup Shane's ass.
     
  9. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    In the states, no idea. I'll be streaming it, anyway. I only buy pay per views if there are multiple fights I wanna see & I can sit down and enjoy them through the night.
     
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    Yup...he has to "go all in" for the first couple of rounds. It's Jackpot or bust! He can't play around with Pacquiao at all. Problem is...he wont do that, so the writing is on the wall...
     
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    Will shane call it a day if he loses?
     
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    This should be his last fight win or lose.
     
  13. Slice N Dice

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    It's not on PPV, it's on sky sports 1 I think
     
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    Can any americans/canadians here please answer my question? What network is showing it?
     
  15. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Isn't showtime showing this fight across the pond?
     
  16. Hut*Hut

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    That's what I've heard, Im sure.
     
  17. steve_dave

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    Showtime PPV.
     
  18. Double L

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    Mosley is not a devastating puncher. He hits hard. But it's his massive onslaught of offense, to the head and body, as opposed to single-shot power, that accounts for his impressive knock-out ratio.

    That's not to say he hasn't had one-punch knock-outs. But those come primarily from Mosley's left-hook. His right-hand, he loops primarily, and as a result, rarely hits his opponents chin with it. Instead, he does his damage to the side of his opponent's head, or his ear. Which we all know can produce knock-downs and knock-outs. But I honestly don't see Mosley beating Pacquiao to the punch very often with his loaded up right-hand - the one with the power to do real damage. I think if Pacquiao doesn't commit to landing first, in which case he will, he'll have a relatively easy time getting under those punches and slipping away unscathed.

    Richardson talks a good game, like he's a real thinking man's trainer, but as far as I can tell, his success has been primarily due to his vigilance in the dressing room while his fighter's opponent is having his hands taped.
     
  19. Hut*Hut

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    I'd say Mosley is actually an underrated puncher at welter. He's certainly the hardest puncher Manny's ever met by a very considerable distance.
     
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    Nah....

    Cotto hits as hard as Mosley does IMO and if not quite that hard, very close behind.
     
  21. Hut*Hut

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    Well, lets not get in a 5 day argument about it, mate (:giggle::scared:), but I'd disagree with that pretty strongly. I mean, can you picture Cotto KOing Vargas or Mayorga with a single shot? Or KOing Margarito in 100 tries?

    I really think Shane's an underrated hitter.
     
  22. loadedgloves

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    Cotto is heavy handed, but shot for shot, Shane punches harder imo.. that's primarily due to the handspeed difference.
     
  23. Hut*Hut

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    Didn't Mosley knock Margarito, Mayorga and Vargas out at 154? I could be wrong about Margarito, but I'm positive the Vargas and Mayorga fights were both at 154.

    The Margarito fight was not a one punch knock-out - it was primarily the consequence of a concentrated body attack from the outset.

    Vargas has no chin. So yes, I could imagine quite easily, Cotto knocking Vargas out, even at 154.

    Mosley, when he loads up that right hand, and throws it like Rocky Balboa, no doubt hits hard. But you really think he has a chance of landing a punch like that against Pacquiao? He may not even throw one - he never did against PBF.

    The common thread among Vargas, Mayorga and Margarito is their poor defense, with Vargas clearly being superior among the three in the category.

    So yeah. I'll agree with you - Mosley's power is underrated. But I think at 147, it's not nearly what it is at 154. And I think when he's not fighting a slow guy like Margarito with no defense, he's not going to have success loading up like he needs to to land that knock-out punch.

    Mosley's speed more than his power is what will trouble Pacquiao in this fight.
     
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  25. Hut*Hut

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    Well i disagree with allot of what you say here, but lets just leave it at that. I don't wanna get pegged into the role of being the Mosley supporter in this fight because I find his punchers chance a bit more credible than most. :cheers:

    I really think Mosley can bang a bit though. I bet Floyd thinks so too.
     
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    He most certainly does NOT
     
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    Mosley hits harder than Cotto...
     
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    I think at 154, mosley hits harder than margarito & cotto.
     
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    If you look at the link, the bit from '#' onwards at the end is what you add. Obviously with the actual time you want to add.
     

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