What the fuck? Boxing is on tonight

It's been awhile since I've seen a boxer absolutely put a high caliber champions into defensive shells like Donaire.

 

Been calling for this fight for a while and remember discussing it with Cdogg many times in the past. Excellent win for Nonito, Nishioka is a very good fighter. Hopefully the Rigondeaux fight happens, I'd love to see it. Even more interesting after Rigondeaux was rocked a couple of times in his last outing.

 

REED's in the Same Boat, Mr. Feebles...Haven't Seen the Fight, yet VERY Impressed w/the Result...It Appears Nonito has REINFORCED his Lb for Lb Status...




REED:mj:

 

Nonito vs. Rigondeaux is a Bonafied Lower Weight SUPERFIGHT...

Rigondeaux's last Fight was Against a Dallas Area Fighter Named Roberto Marroquin, who's HUGE for that Weight....BIGGER than Nonito, Even...Dude Walks Around @ 5'7 & Nearly 140lbs, while Floating btwn 122-126 @ Weigh-Ins....Rigondeaux Definitely Seems to have a Degree of VULNERABILITY in his Whiskers, but Marroquin Can PUNCH, Also...On Top of that, Rigondeaux DROPPED Marroquin 2 or 3 Times...

Nonito vs. Rigondeaux HAS to Happen in 2013...In Terms of SKILL LEVEL, it's a Mayweather-Pacquiao Level Fight & it'd Be TRAGIC if the Bout Fails to Come to Fruition...




REED:mj:

 

i have houses, i have cars

 

Donaire > Martinez

 

i guess you guys are really impressed with this nishioka victory. the guy was old, and hasnt really beaten anyone aside from jhonny gonzalez. sahaprom kicked his ass a bunch of times years and years ago.

 

Years and Years Ago, A Couple of Guys Kicked Pacquiao's Ass Too, Neil...




REED:dunno:

 

the difference being pacquiao beat a bunch of a solid opponents over the years since then. nishioka hasnt.

 

I have a hard time trying to give mad props to Nonito for this victory since his opponent was SCARED TO DEATH to be in the same ring with Nonito. It was a boring fight because Nishioka opted to survive since the opening bell. It was only after he was dropped that he wake up and tried to fight which resulted in him being stopped. Rigondeaux is way overrated btw, but in the post fight interview Nonito again dismissed that fight stating Rigondeaux needs to grow more (fight more recognizable opponents to grow his stature in the market) in order to make that fight happen (sounds like Floyd talking). By the time that happens Nonito will be in another division.

 

He's vastly better than anyone Martinez has beaten since Pavlik

 

let me get this straight... Donaire scares his opponents, so he doesn't deserve any credit for that

 

thats ridiculous nishioka is vastly better than paul williams now? :atu:

nishioka is pretty comparable to dzinzuruk. older southpaw who hadnt lost in forever but also hadnt beat anyone worth a damn. Nishioka isnt vastly better than Macklin either.

 

Nishioka is much better than both Zurik and Macklin, come on. His performance was crap, but I guess that had a lot to do with Nonito.

 

i dont see it. nishioka was never anything tremendous and it showed when he faced an an ancient marquez that he had slipped considerably.

 

Exactly. It is like blaming Alexis Arguello for his opponents being passive against him. Donaire's countering abilities were the reason Nishioka wouldn't open up. He couldn't match Donaire's footspeed either, so the only plan he could try was to protect himself and wait for an opportunity. Donaire never gave him one

 

not vastly better than Williams, but I'd say better, especially considering Williams never did jack shit above 154

Dzinzuruk is shit with a jab... Macklin??? come on

 

Perfect analogy

Watch basically any fight from Chacon/Boza/Limon/Navarette

Then watch each guy challenge Arguello for the 130 belt... The difference is staggering. Limon was one of the most reckless fighters imaginable and even he was trying to parry and pick his spots against Arguello for fear of getting decapitated... I never saw Bobby Chacon fight more carefully than he did against Arguello

 

i guess you think more highly of nishioka than i ever did. his resumé is pretty mediocre for a long time champion. much like dzinzuruks. he was a tough, basic fighter when he was young. he lost soundly 4 times to an aging sahaprom. by the time he fought donaire he was 36 years old

 

I'd say Sahaprom, though old, was still a pretty formidable champ at that time and isn't as if Nishioka got killed... the fights were close enough to warrant four matches... and that was quite a long time ago, sometimes a guy gets a little better, a little more seasoned as he gets a little older and I think that was true of Nishioka... he got the belt eventually and was a reasonably dominant belt holder... I was impressed by how he got the serviceable Jhonny Gonzalez out of there and thought he was a skillful boxer with very good power... I definitely felt he was a superior fighter to Dzinzuruk and I still think so... I think forcing him to basically avoid engaging or trying to win for most of the fight and then knocking him out when he finally did is very impressive... I didn't see many people predicting that

 

ninito destroys rigo. its a total mismatch.

 

he doesnt seem to think so. if he did he'd take the fight and destroy the guy. instead he has a million excuses whenever that name is brought up.

 

Just like Floyd did for years when the name "Pacquiao" was brought up. Now he changed the tone stating he will fight Pacquiao...under his conditions. Nonito is reading the same script, but I do believe Nonito is just aiming for a mega payday and not so much about being worried about Rigondeaux.

 

No. He doesn't. It just mean that this opponent was not so confident in himself. Same happened to Tyson until Buster Douglas showed no fear and KO him. After that Tyson no longer inspired fear to his opponents. Nishioka should had watched the Wilfredo Vazquez Jr fight. He gave Nonito a tough fight and didn't got KO. Maybe Nishioka knows he has a glass chin and was afraid it was going to be shattered...like it did!

 

Agree with this. I'm picking Rigondeaux, though, and with some confidence.
I think he is better than Donaire, but Donaire's power and skillset will keep him dangerous the entire time.

 

Narvaez is noticeably better than Nishioka in a p4p sense, at least. That's why he landed clean shots consistently throughout his fight with Donaire.

Nishioka's strategy was not to win on points. He gave away 5 rounds and then tried to come on.
I suppose they figured that Nishioka at 98% after 5 rounds would have a decent chance against Donaire at 90% after 5 rounds.
The problem is that Donaire doesn't burn energy when he's up against someone not trying.

Nishioka was the easiest fight of the 122 lb crowd for Donaire. Rigondeaux and Mares both better, imo. Same with Gamboa.
There are some other decent challenges/names in the area and I expect Donaire/Arum will avoid the Cubans.

 

You put way too much emphasis on 'confidence', here.

 

:: didn't Narvaez land less than 10 punches per round?

 

You're the only person who thinks that though. He barely threw more than 10 punches a round, and lost every minute of every round.

Also Gamboa isn't part of the 122 pound crowd, he's only fought at 126 and 130. He has too much firepower for Donaire and anyone else at 122, if they were to fight him at 126, they'd all get blitzed.

 

It's just something mikE hade up because he confidently picked Narvaez to win.