WHAT's Gonna Happen WHEN (Not If, but wHEN) Cotto HITS Manny???...

the 2 lbs is 2 lbs that Cotto will have to lose that he hasn't had to lose in years. and yet, the fight is for "some" sort of welterweight title. it's b.s.

it's Pacquiao wanting his cake and being able to eat it too.

 

Yep, exactly what I thought when I read his post.

 

??? Makes no sense. ::

 

i didn't know this fight was at 145...that's bullshit :notallthere:


i'll give Pacman zero credit if he wins :shit:

 

Pac has the better chin and power in this fight IMO. The more i think about this fight the less chance i give Cotto. His right hand is not on JMM or Morales' level and his defence is worse than JMM and so is his toughness.

Another thing is that if Arum/Trampler seriously believed that Cotto could win this fight wouldn't be happening.

 

Cotto weighed in at 146 vs Clottey, so it'll just be one more lb that he'll have to shave off.

I agree that it shouldn't be for the title though.

 

Cotto can come in @147 but then he will get hit with a 2 Mil fee. What stuns me is how little a chance people give Cotto.

 

I don't know how much of a sticking point the weight was, maybe if Cotto's camp played hard ball, they could've got the fight at 147...i dunno.

But, I don't think Cotto loses anything more than the 2lbs (well 1lb on from the Clottey fight) of weight by fighting at 145. I don't think it will be a struggle for him, especially with the amount of prep he's put in.

 

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This shit kills me when cats question Cotto's toughness? Are you kidding me. Cotto has proven over and over again that he is tough. He's had plenty of chances to quit and passed all tests. Shit he could have quit against Corley when Corley had his ass on queer street. But he came back and blitzed that dude. He could have quick against Margacheato but he fought to the very end. I don't get it. The dude is as tough as they come.

And yes what will happen when Cotto lands one of those monstrous left hooks to head and or body to Pacquaio. People keep talking about Cotto as if he can't take a punch. How many people here think that Pacquaio hits harder then Sugar Shane. How many people here think that Paquaio hits harder then Clottey. How many people here think that Paquaio hits harder then Margacheato with loaded gloves. I don't! So if Cotto was able to take their shit plus give it back then he will be able to do the same. The more I think about it and this will be my prediction I can see Pacquaio getting stopped like Angullo stopped ole boy on Saturday before I see Pacquaio stopping Cotto. I'll Holla 5000

 

What's the difference between quitting in your corner, and taking multiple knees until the ref waves it away?.

 

Atleast you are giving effort. When your ass just refuses to come out of the corner then that tells me that there is some bitchassness in you. That's the difference. Besides cats take knees all the time in boxing that's part of the fight game. But just sitting your ass on the stool refusing to come out I can't agree with that. Now you might be in agreement with that type of activity cause you may have some bitchassness in your veins me I don't. I'll Holla 5000

 

:crafty: So if you harbour desires to quit, why not take multiple knees?.. that way we can eliminate quitting in the corner, just drop down a couple of times, it's a hella way to disguise it. Making the effort to squat down, awesome stuff.

 

So you are on record saying Pac deserves no credit for winning and neither does Cotto::::

Honestly, PAC deserves credit. He is a very tiny, tiny guy. Making Cotto shed 2 pounds is not a big deal, but frankly no fight should ever be for a title unless it is at that weight.

 

That stoppage will always be questionable. Cotto probably would have finished on his feet but we don't know for sure if he was getting hit with fists, or plaster blocks.

 

Margarito DID have rigged wraps for that, but I'm making a broader point really, it seems you're not allowed to quit in the corner, but it's acceptable in the ring, we don't hear as much crying about people who kneel on the canvas begging for mercy, nor do we hear as much for those who take a dive like Oscar De La Hoya, it's the corner quittage that resonates the most impact.

 

You are allowed to quit at any time when you are being hit in the face repeatedly with illegal wrapped and life-threatening hands

MTF

 

You should be allowed to retire like a respected human being if your life is on the line or you fear for your health, I'm not paying money to force people to become crippled or die.

 

Yeah, but how do you know the guy wants to quit as opposed to just taking a moment to gather himself and shake off the cobwebs?

 

Absolutely.

Some internet fans make me laugh like crazy, going on and on about 'quitters' and the like. If you know you can't win the fight and are getting badly hurt, then you should quit. There is a very real risk of serious injury or death in there, FFS.

Getting into a ring and fighting another man takes great courage. Anyone who has ever done it will know what I am talking about- sitting in your dressing room pre-fight is one of the most nerve-racking moments you could ever imagine.

Cotto was absolutely right to 'quit' in the Margacheto fight IMHO. His face was a bloody, battered mess and he was in no position to defend himself. What was he supposed to do; keep getting hit until he was brain damaged?

MTF :notallthere:

 

Well that's the avenue fighters can take to 'disguise' thier quitting Lib four Lib,.. that'll satisfy those who are up in arms about stool quitting, .. dive quitting and knee quitting is the way to go.

 

"Cotto should have stayed up, and taken his beating like a man".

 

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What the fuck are you talking bout your life is on the line the moment you step in the ring. Its a gladiator sport not tennis. All fighters or athletes that participate in a sport know the risk that go along with their sport. When it is accepted that fighters start quitting on their stools then that's when the gladiator sport will be pussified. Like I said you must have some pussification in ur veins if you think that's acceptable. I'm willing to be bet that the majority of professional fighter would rather go out on their shield, have the ref stop the fight, or have their corner stop the then quit on their stool like a bitch. And please don't use the term retire. To me that's the bitchassness that is hurting the sport. I'll Holla 5000

 

Exactly! Fighters take knees for all sorts of reasons. I'll Holla 5000

 

Stealing Brock Lesnar's material now?

 

Yes.

 

Yes, but when you've made it to the level of being broadcasted, you've got the experience of knowing when your ok in the ring, and when you are feeling dangerously ill.

Bigdawg,.. were you proud of the way Leavander Johnson fought and died like a warrior?.. :crafty:

 

Heres the deal. Leavander choose his career path with the understanding of the consequences of what could possibly happen in this gladiator sport. Leavander fought the way he did cause that's the way he fights. Now should the fight have been stopped possibly but wasn't in his corner, the ref, or the doctor. Nor is it my job as a fan to tell a fighter to quit. Besides I have heard too many fighters say that they would rather die in the ring then quit. Now to answer ur question Leavander died doing something that he loved doing at a high level. So that aspect I'm proud of what he did. I'm not happy he passed away but once again that's the nature of the business. I'll Holla 5000