What's he better at?

I tried to explain to the guy that George fucking Foreman couldn't put Qawi away in two. He weren't having it

 

You shoulda seen ESB circa 2009-2010.

There were MULTIPLE threads saying that Haye would KO prime Tyson.

 

Then again, one of very own once famously declared that AJ would KO Joe Frazier in 2...

 

Was that Dubble?

 

Haye couldn't even KO Valuev

 

Nah, Dubble never went that far... I don't think.

Dubblechin's genesis was at Secondout's Out, which was the forum many of us were at (including Fightbeat's founder) before here. So we're talking circa 2000.

Dubble was always a very controversial figure, but over the years he's said more and more outlandish shit.

 

The debate is Spinks vs Beterbiev. Obviously that led to Spinks opposition being put down in response to the truth being Beterbiev has exactly three good wins, and none of them are good enough to be in Spinks' top five.

The main culprit is saying things like "Lopez was a punch bag"; "Beterbiev stops Qawi in two"; "Beterbiev would have the same mental effect as Tyson"; "Beterbiev is the strongest LHW in history"; "Cooney is a bum, Beterbiev would've beaten him"; "Gvozdyk did pipe have beaten Spinks and everyone he fought at LHW". He's getting really mad too. I haven't even told him yet that Gerry Cooney's resume is better than Hot Rod's, Johnson's and Gvozdyk's combined.

 

Dubble has lots of cool anecdotes, but I don't think he ever really adds much. His obsession with Wilder is really annoying

 

Oh, I just realized you were talking about the AJ KOing Frazier statement.

Nah, that statement was made by Slystaff, who's another legacy poster around here, and another controversial figure. He quit posting here around the time of Canelo-Golov 1.

 

I've heard of him

 

He was good in the early 00s, but over the years regressed more and more into nothing more than a Floyd sycophant.

What I do remember is that we had a mutual dislike for Mosley in the early 00s.

You might think of me a Mosley fan now, but there was a time when I trashed Mosley more than any other fighter.

 

I kinda of liked Sly but he was a weird, self delusional dude. I'd say there was a 50% he was putting on a show and 50% he was for real.

I remember his thread that ''proved'' God exists (which as I recall, was a couple of banal observations a high school student could have put together) or that he was about to write some best selling book.

His obsession with undefeated records was super weird too, especially for an older boxing fan. Seemed like he was watching boxing more for the superhero aspect than the sport itself. Not surprised at all he was big on AJ, checked all the right boxes for him (and for UGTBK too ).

 

Yep, guy was a huge comic book fan, and it influenced his outlook on boxing.

Another weird thing about him is that he was a huge ali fan, yet denigrated all the guys that beat him. He probably would have picked butterbean over frazier or norton in a mm

 

He regressed big time over the years. He was one of the better posters on S/O, I won't deny him that.

He was a far cry from that poster by time he stopped posting.

 

You wouldn't?

 

He did write and publish a book. No idea if it was a best seller. Doubt it.

Sly is a fundamentally good dude. Egotistical as hell and he enjoyed a good troll, but a fundamentally decent gadge.

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What was his book about

 

Just watching Whitaker vs Nelson, Arguello's technique was far, far better than Nelson's, who could be kind of wild.

 

I blame the moderators for that.








One thread should have been enough.

 

I would give the Bean a 5% chance vs Norton.... If he hit Norton right, he'd have him going but good..

 

Who did? Haye came closest with that neck shot in the last round.

In terms of sneaking around collecting paydays and poncing off carefully arranged victories, Haye was a fucking master.

The best. He had that whole "Former Undisputed Cruiserweight Champ" routine worked out to a fine art.

And then the way he used that to sneak into the Wlad fight in 2009.

When that Setanta deal fell through, he could have still had the fight but he pulled out rather than risk it for reduced money

You would have imagined he'd have fancied himself no matter what but the dirty dirty bastard instead contrived to peck his way to victory in Germany vs Valuev then fight UTTER retreads like Barrett and Ruiz (both of whom dropped his ass, BTW) before resecuring a by now more lucrative date with Klitschko.

Which he then stank in.

Fucking careful picky little bastard.

The words "former undisputed cruiserweight champion and heavyweight champion it has only been done once before" have never been spoken more by any other human.

Since Usyk beat Joshua, he's gone back to reminding everyone that he was the last one to do it.

Pfp nobody ever self promoted MORE WITH LESS than Haye.

 

At 147 Trinidad beats Cotto and at 154 it's murder.

 

Yeah it’s just a horrible style match up for Cotto. He might get a flash knockdown early on but that might actually make it worse for him.

 

Agreed.

Tito often went down from clean left hooks, but he pretty much always got up and fought as hard as he could to rectify the issue.

 

Cotto is just too small and deliberate. He comes in kind of slow and direct. Trinidad would bomb him from on high and Miguel did not have an iron chin, just enough of a chin to get a sustained beating. He'd expend huge amounts of energy just getting inside.

Trinidad did his thing better than Cotto did his, and Cotto thing (high-handed methodical pressure fighter) was always inferior to Trinidad thing (long armed boxer-puncher with late power)

I mean, without rehashing old stories, Trinidad did the Margarito routine a lot better than Margarito. And I don't mean wraps. I mean the whole tall-man-stalking routine.

 

Indeed.

 

I honestly think that Nelson is overrated. Not in his career, but in his skills and style.

Why does Ike Quartey need to measure up to Nelson?

Quartey did lots of things better. His career was not pfp better but let's face it, he gets the nod over Oscar anywhere other than the USA.

Better jab. Better counter left hook. Kept his hands up better for longer.

Nelson took his career more seriously. He did that better, for sure. Ike was sloppy.

Nelson got famous off an unexpected strong showing vs Sanchez. Then he's got some Euro bum activity.

People make out that Nelson is some African God Standard but there were lots of guys from Africa who did stuff better than he did. Nelson just hammered out a better career.

Nelson took out Pat Cowell in 1 and Sanchez needed a knockdown to get a split decision. But Sa Sanchez was better in almost every department bar what, catching guys cold

 

God

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Is God better at stuff?

 

I can't find his book online. I did link to it here a few years back here but can't find it. Must be sold out.

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