White: Silva vs. Sonnen II would likely take place in Brazilian soccer stadium

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  1. Trplsec

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    And I won't deny it. Sorry that it gets your little Canadian panties in a wad.

    I like both sports and have no problem with pointing out the issues with each. It just so happens that right now boxing has more to complain about than MMA.

    If there is something better about boxing, I will point that out as well. It's great to be able to be objective. You should try it.
     
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    Well by YOUR "Rationale", Mayweather & Pac have Simply "Chosen" NOT to Face Each Other Then...If GSP Can "Choose" NOT to Face Silva & that's OK w/MMA Guys, then there Should B NO Talk about Pac-Mayweather NOT Taking Place OR It's Negative Impact on Boxing...After All, it was Merely their CHOICE...

    Fair Enough???...


    REED:Lok:
     
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  3. steve_dave

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    Thanks. Silva/Jon Jones would be big too... but Jones hasn't been around as long as GSP. I don't think he's as famous yet.
     
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  4. Anthony

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    This is easy. Just because the fight could potentially be the biggest PPV fight doesnt mean that it should be or that the ufc or the fighters should be bashed for it not happening. These men are in a seperate weight division and shouldnt have to be forced to fight one another because it would be a big seller.

    This is much different than boxing where you have two champions at 147 and that have been champions for years at that weight and dont want to fight.
     
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    Comparing a heavyweight and middleweight not fighting to a welterweight and a middleweight not fighting :atu:
     
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  6. steve_dave

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    You're always pointing it out though. You love it. It's pretty annoying.

    I don't like MMA, but I'm plenty objective about the pros and cons of both as a system. MMA is obviously the superior business... I just don't like the sport.
     
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  7. Anthony

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    if Diaz wins, a GSP/Diaz fight would draw huge. I would even say 1mil buys.
     
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    Keep GRASPING @ those Straws, Bro...Even Ray Charles Could See the Similarities in Mayweather-Pac & GSP-Silva...But by All Means, Keep CLINGING to the Weight, the ONE Crutch U Have...

    As if that ERASES the Other Similarities....


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  9. steve_dave

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    I'm not bashing. Trplsec is suggesting GSP/Silva wouldn't be the biggest promotion ever if it was made sometime soon. That just isn't true.
     
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  10. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    So your saying that UFC didn't make the biggest fight in the history of MMA and missed it's oppurtunity?
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Jan 19, 2012
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    For sure. But Silva/GSP would probably almost double that.
     
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    You are the one that claimed the #1 & #2 guys in the PFP should fight. as if they are in the same weight class. It was stupid on your end. I figured only by using another stupid logic would it get through to your brain.

    Why didnt Mayweather and Hopkins fight back in 2004? Answer the question.
     
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    no way. It would increase, but i dont see the UFC getting a 2mil buy anytime soon.
     
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    Im not saying you are. You have been very objective in this thread.
     
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    Answer the question. And you name the similarities between May/pac and GSP and silva.

    Lets start by their physical stats. I will wait.
     
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    You're really naive if you think a GSP returning from a major knee injury thrust immediately into a bout with Silva is a marketing dream.

    A marketing dream is to have him destroy the Interim Champ (Condit-Diaz) winner and THEN stage the Silva fight.

    I think you under estimate the number of fans that don't just assume GSP could beat Diaz or Condit. In fact, there are some that think GSP is avoiding Diaz.

    Nevertheless, GSP versus anyone is an easy sell in Canada.
     
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    Who knows... UFC still doesn't get the mainstream press the REALLY big boxing matches do, but those are big names. I wouldn't be shocked if a GSP/Silva promotion approached 2 mill.
     
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    There are many people that think Diaz will beat GSP
     
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    Im saying it is the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight of MMA.

    Mayweather vs Pacquiao in boxing = the most PPV buys for any boxing match

    Silva vs GSP in MMA = the most ppv buys for any MMA fight

    Comprende?!?

    To say nobody wants to see it is madness. Dana even talked about doing the fight but didn't make the fight because he was punishing Silva for sucking s*** against Maia, Leites and the other cat in Chicago.
     
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    <IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0qb5xo5LKhU" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

    At 3:23 He said the other day he would cut to 170 to fight GSP.
     
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    I think you're naive if you think anyone other than the hardcore fans are even going to be thinking about GSP's knee once the hype machine gets rolling.

    GSP/Silva would be MASSIVE. Surely the biggest promotion that could be made. Name a fight between two fighters in the same class or two fighters one weight apart that would outsell GSP/Silva. GSP/Jon Jones would be big, but I don't think Jones has a HUGE name yet. Not GSP huge.
     
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    GSP has to be healthy and dominant for that to happen. I see GSP struggling with Diaz. I just dont think it has the same appeal it once had. And it was only brought up because there is nobody else for these guys to fight. But with Sonnen still around, Jones, diaz, condit and a few others, GSP/Silva talk has really diminished.
     
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    Translation: You're right Trplsec. :Thumbs:

    I don't need a crutch. My argument was simple. The UFC consistently makes the big fights happen where the biggest fight in boxing hasn't happened despite years of posturing.

    Even Ray Charles could see there is NO comparison.

    And this debate is really simple to end. If Manny and Floyd were in the UFC, they would have fought already. And therein lies the difference. Period.
     
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    Anderson Silva said he could cut to 170 to make the fight!!!
     
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    Among hardcore fans for sure. The true super fights aren't really for the hardcore fans.
     
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    I think you mean Silva-Jones not GSP-Jones.


    And right now, today, Jones-Silva is a bigger sell than GSP-Silva in my opinion.

    As I said, if you scan thru the P4P list on many publications, Jon Jones has jumped ahead of GSP in many.

    But I think you're missing the point. The question is the biggest fight RIGHT now. GSP can't fight for likely almost a year. By that point, with GSP being on the shelf for almost 2 years, there is no question that Jones-Silva is bigger.

    If GSP was healthy today, I would lean toward GSP-Silva but that's not reality.
     
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    <IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UqtgoJene3E" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

    3:32 "i'd do the gsp and anderson silva fight"

    <IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sQPk2Bz5Tto" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>
     
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    UFC's own boss wants the fight!

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/31jmfTdLzG0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Yep, sorry, that's what I meant.

    I just think purely in terms of fame, GSP has the edge over Jon Jones. But maybe that's just because everyone loves him up here in Canada. It would be a fucking massive promotion.
     
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    RJJ is wasting bandwidth with stuff that no one is actually debating.

    LOL
     
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