Who could Floyd Mayweather Jr have fought...

Then Why Did it Take Soooooooooooooo Looooooooooooong, and JM Marquez Proving Pac was Indeed Human, for Floyd to FINALLY Face Him?








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Shiiiiiiiit....I’ll get killed for this but I don’t care.....

Even taking on Conor McGregor at age 41 was brave. Of course it was more about the money but McGregor was legitimately bigger than him, in his prime, southpaw, and had a reputation as a puncher. Floyd was risking his 49-0 record on an unknown X factor. Yes, money talks...but still...it was a risk that could have been a major embarrassment. People say Conor was 0-0 and this is true but the guy had striking experience, championship experience and again he was known as a puncher and was prime and relatively huge.

 

In that case, Roy Jones was part time rapper when he lost to Tarver. I guess Magic man gets no credit. Most people saw Oscar as a legitimate threat to Floyd’s undefeated record. Muzse (the poster) and double L included. Let’s not revise history and change the threat level. Oscars recent fight had been a destruction of Mayorga. He was still potent

 

either you're trolling or are a complete idiot.

either way, it proves that it's a total waste of time to discuss this with you

 

Fighting an old, half retired legend, while obtaining the highest purse by far of your career (at the time) is not courage.

 

I’ve been through his before....

This was the first time in history ( correct me with an example of I’m wrong) that featured a matchup between the top 2 P4P fighters, who were both megastars, both with equal claim to the A side of the promotion, both men of whom could make megabucks without the other. In hindsight it’s no surprise the fight didn’t get made at the time....huge egos on either side and no one wanted to budge. Pacquiao equally to blame.

 

Neither...I’m just owning this thread with my keen insight and remarkable intellect

 

Right now it’s fashionable to hate on Floyd but this too shall pass. Give t less than 5 years and the majority here will agree with what I’m saying now and will be thanking me for actually being the poster to educate the forum on the remarkable achievements of this once in a generation talent

 

The fight got eventually made NOT because Floyd was suddenly not scared of Pacquiao but because Pacquiao’s shine had been diminished after getting knocked the fuck out and as such he (paquiao) knew he was no longer in any position to make demands and had to bend over and take it in the negotiations since Floyd was now he only legit megastar in the promotion. That’s why Pacquiao was suddenly willing to take the drug tests. So it wasn’t Floyd suddenly getting brave it was Pacquiao suddenly no longer having the ego.

 

No one disagrees that he is a once in a generation talent. The problem that we have is your saying that he has a claim for TBE.

 

But he does have a claim though, an objective claim. I expertly broke it down in this thread. That record man...that record. It’s not that he was 50-0, it’s that he was 50-0 after 30 championship fights, multiple HOF fighters and 5 weight classes. To say it like a ghetto American...”that’s achievement fo yo ass”.

 

Exactly. Even if a million years pass, people who know the game will rebember is lame ass retirement to avoid Marg and WIlliams, and the Pacman fisaco. Guy still is a top level talent though

 

Why I don't think he has a claim is that he didn't really beat a legend that was also in his prime. The best prime guys he fought were Corrales, Castillo and maybe Canelo.

 

if canelo legitimately defeats GGG would you concede this point ?

 

yes and no, cause Canelo probably wasn't in his prime at the time of the PBF fight. He was coming off a very close win against Trout, and was in a controversial fight against Lara not long after. I think that current Canelo would beat both more convincingly

 

In NO Way is Pacquiao EQUAL in Blame...The Fact You Actually BELIEVE That Shit is Why X Turned Every Thread You Posted Into a Floyd One...

Only Thing Pac Did "Wrong" was Not Succumb to ALL of Floyd's Demands Sooooon Enough...A List of Demands that Grew and GREW, as Pac Kept Dominating Common Foes EASIER Than Floyd Had...








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Please don’t bring X’s lame ass into this discussion as if his opinion means anything. He’s the least among us.

Now onto important business.

Even if Floyd was more to blame it’s a FACT that Pacquiao wasn’t budging much either. Pacquiao has his share of blame and every objective observer agrees with this.

 

This proves my point from the very beginning...Floyd wouldn’t get credit regardless of who he fought. Excuses would always be made.

Canelo is actually a better win than a win over 2010 Pacquiao would have been. Bigger event? No. But a better win? Yes.

You see, had Floyd beaten THAT pacquiao the haters would have said that Pacquiao was naturally smaller, much shorter, shorter reach former flyweight...already defeated by Morales, struggled twice with Marquez, been knocked out before by flyweights yada yada yada. You know it and I know it. However with canelo...Alvarez is bigger than Floyd and was undefeated going into that fight and has since gone on to draw with GGG after beating Cotto who beat Martinez.

 

It's Floyd's Fault the Fight Didn't Happen Soooooner Sly....EVERY Objective Observer Outside of YOU and TMT'ers Agree w/This...

History WON'T Be Kind to Floyd in that Regard Either...

No Fighter in History has Ever Milked, Stalled and Prolooooooonged THE Biggest Fight of their Career as Floyd Did Pacquiao...EVER...The Same Way Anthony Joshua is Catching Flack from Boxing LEGENDs, for Failing to Make the Wilder Fight Happen, Floyd Was Doing Likewise Regarding Pacquiao...

For YEARS....

For All the Stats You're Conjuring Up to Make Floyd Look Better, What REED's Stated is FACT...







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So this talk about pacquiao being scared of needles never happened? I imagined it?

 

That Hurdle was QUICKLY Cleared and You Know It...

You Also Know Floyd Kept Placing More and MORE Hurdles in the Path, Impeding the Fight from Happening...

The Mere Fact Floyd DEMANDED Unprecedented Testing Measures Be Instituted CLEARLY SPEAKS to Just How SHOOK He Was Bruh...

It Obviously PAINS You to Acknowledge and Admit, but the Chain of Events and Litany of Excuses Floyd Had Reveals the Truth...

And it Justifiably Chips Away @ his T.B.E. Claim...Again, THE Biggest Fight of His Life, Nonetheless Floyd Stalled and Stalled Worse than a Piece of Shit Automobile....





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No, that's because you're ensnared by PBF. It's pretty obvious that he's a better fighter now than he was then. Hell, he was what 22 yo at the time of the Floyd fight?

And stop revisiting history and writing alternative history. Nobody would have denigrate a win over pac in 2010. Guy was coming off a destruction of Cotto that was much more impressive than Canelo win a few years later.

 

Tyson was 20 when he beat Berbick and 22 when he beat spinks. I guess Tyson wasn’t prime either?

And yes the haters would have absolutely denigrated a win over pacquiao in 2010 using the logic I just offered. That would have been too easy.

 

If haters could minimize Floyd’s victory over dela Hoya at 154lb when Floyd had been at 130lb just a few years earlier then there’s virtually no victory for which Floyd would have been given credit.

 

By the way JOM...Corrales should be considered a legend, considering he is the victor in the wildly considered best fight in history and after Floyd , Corrales went on to beating, along with Castillo, Casamayor and Frietas. He was also known as one of the hardest ever punchers at 130 and 135.

 

As I said before, that's because you're a causual. A true boxing fan knew at the time that DLH wasn't a serious fighter anymore

 

Corralles and Castillo were both great wins, I agree with you. In fact, I consider Floyd to be the best 130-pounder that ever lived, I rate the guy highly. Canelo also a great win, I've no beef with that.

Saying all of this though, Pacquiao was THE guy man, come on dude I know you're not stupid, it's the fight everybody wanted to see. You know as well as I do that Canelo, Castillo and Corralles were NOT the level of Pacman, Pacquiao was so much more than just 'icing' man, come the fuck on. That was THE fight. It took him longer than half a decade to make that fuckin fight man, we were all robbed. I love Floyd as a fighter but he took the path he took and that's the be all and end all.

 

I disagree with this personally. If you called it then fair play, but I give him a lot of respect for the DLH fight. The consensus on FightBeat was pretty much 50/50. I think it's a bit of a disservice to say Oscar wasn't a serious fighter at that point.

 

He sure looked serious against mayorga

 

I personally stopped taking Oscar seriously after the Bhop fiasco. I actually think that PBF having so close of a fight with that version of Oscar is a scar on his resume, not some great accomplishment.