Who had more one punch knockout power. Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson?

Yeah, funny how that works.

 

I cant think of Lewis laying anybody out cold/totally 100% legless beside Rahman.

 

So you think Tyson had a harder single punch than LL's right hand?

One punch knockout power.

 

Well argue your case otherwise. Show me a bunch of 1 punch Lewis KOs. :dunno: Especially ones where guys couldn't get back to their feet.

 

Tyson's fan boys are now in their mid to late 20s. The hardcore Tyson fans like Snaggles and Geemoney and them were teens back when Tyson was still competing. I doubt there's gonna be many topics made on Lewis and Tyson in a few years time as the younger kids coming up weren't exposed to these guys or the greats of yesteryear. Basically we're the last of the bunch.

 

Lionel Butler went from one shot practically. Also there were some scrubs early in his career whom he dropped with single punches, much like Tyson. I can't think of many similar one-punch KOs from Tyson either

 

Exactly, that's all anyone points to, the Rahman KO.

Admittedly awesome KO, but that's it. That's the ONLY fight I can think of where Lewis effectively ended a fight with 1 punch and nothing more.

Thinking about it, Lewis's single punch power is kind of overrated. That right hand was probably the hardest punch Lewis ever threw, and it landed perfectly.

I have absolutely no doubt Tyson punched harder with single shots, he proved it throughout his career. Consistent 1 punch power.

 

But they had completely different styles. Lewis was a boxer/puncher. He threw everything off the jab. Never threw with the intention of laying somebody out with 1 punch. Tyson was a completely different fighter to Lewis. Much more vicious and with worse intentions.
Can't really compare these guys.

 

But that doesn't mean he didn't hit harder. It just means

1. He didn't have a mind to KO them.

2. He didn't have the technique to get his power to work.

Etc.

Tyson couldn't win a fight on points, as I saw it, he either tried to KO you and won enough of rounds trying, to get a decision, or he got his arse bust because he couldn't negotiate a settlement once he had failed to get you out of there.

Tyson was a more natural puncher, in terms of his outlook and his physique, but that doesn't mean he hit harder, as Lewis was bigger, and knew how to hit.

 

Yeah, I don't remember the names but there were a few when I watched all of LL's early career fights a few years back.

Tyson doesn't exactly have a library of one punch KOs either. And we all agree that LL's right hand is the single hardest shot in the equation here. ::

 

That's irrelevant Hanzy.

What you're saying makes sense for KO ratios (ie often a more aggressive guy gets more KO's purely from aggression over a guy that hits harder).

But we're not comparing number of stoppages, we're comparing 1 punch KO's.

The fact is Lewis hit plenty of good fighters with his right hand flush, including small guys like Mavrovic and Holyfield, and it didn't even hurt them.

The only time it looked to have truly elite power against a world level guy was Rahman 2, that's it. One fight.

 

Well, it kind of does to be honest. Lewis hit guys regularly with the right hand flush, even when he was being cautious, there would still be a few times in the fight where he would unleash it.

 

No we don't.

Me and Hut, two of the wisest forum members both realise that Tyson hit harder with single shots.

Quite simply, if Lewis hit harder he'd have more 1 punch KO's, and he doesn't.

Pretty obvious to be honest.

 

You look at Tyson vs Holyfield and Tyson vs Lewis, Lewis vs Holyfield.

Just take the 5th round of Holy vs Lewis, I.

Now compare that to any round Holy fought vs Tyson......and see if Holy looks as worried or as hurt in any of those rounds, apart from when his ear was bitten off.

Lewis had him in the 5th of the first, and dehumanised him with a blow to the back of the head {Holy leaning in with his head, again} and then pinned him against the ropes. You can see whose power Holy respected most.

 

Do you remember Tyson hurting Holyfield at any point either, mex? In either fight? I remember Tyson blasting him hard a few times and Holyfield didn't budge. Unless Holyfield was on steroids or something, it was pretty impressive.

 

Cool. Obviously Lewis' right hand is the hardest single shot here, but cool.

 

Actually yeah, I do remember Tyson buzzing Holyfield, especially in the rematch. More than Lewis did, that's for sure.

 

Some nerve bringing up Holyfield. ::

 

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Except it's clearly not as hard as either Tyson's left or right hand. If it was, he'd have more 1 punch KO's. But he doesn't.

 

Lewis had three hands.

 

Doesn't matter that he got p0wned (like Lewis did in the rematch too), Tyson hurt Holyfield in the rematch. I can't remember what round, but it was a single punch.

I don't recall Holy being hurt at all against Lewis.

And he didn't really need to respect Tyson's power, because he was just smothering the shit out of him and butting him, making it impossible for him to get off.

 

You say some pretty outlandish shit quite often, but this is a good one. ::

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Actually, we were first comaprinng 1 punch power, not KOs, but anyway.

I wouldn't read much to Holy and Mavrovic examples, since nobody KOd them with single shots, which makes you believe both had very good chins. In fact, Holyfield is a very odd example here, if you want to make a case for Tyson.

Also, what hurts people is different things. Lewis didn't throw shots well from close. Inside punches are effective because they are difficult to see, but that doesn't mean they are harder per se.

Also, a fighter can show one-punch power by dropping people, since as I said already, 1 punch KOs are VERY rare at top level, that includes Tyson too. Lewis dropped several good fighters with single punches, I think that indicates world class power. Can you name somebody with plenty of 1 punch KOs over world class opposition? Even Foreman didn't do that

 

Butler went from two uppercuts and staggered back and off balance fully in charge of his senses. He was up within about 2 seconds of his arse touching down. It was essentially a flash knock down that the ref used to end a mismatch.

Ruddock's the only one he really incapacitated except Rahman. But that was after a serious, serious barrage of shots, culminating in a clean KO.

I really think you're mistaken on this one, mate

 

Neither does Holy.......

 

It was an ear shot. Holy lost his equilibirum for a second, then recovered immediately.

Bowe hurt Holy more than Lewis did by the way.

 

I agree it's rare to get a proper lights out 1 punch KO at elite level, that's why I said "effectively end a fight with 1 punch".

For example Tyson Vs Moorer, not a 1 punch KO exactly, but he effectively finished him with 1 shot.

Same with Bruno, it was 1 punch that started it.

But with Lewis, even against guys like Golota and Botha, it was barrages of punches against overmatched opponents.

 

Cool. And Lewis hurt Holy more than Tyson did.

 

Holy was bringing his knee up to protect himself....