Who has the best shot at beating Jones @ 205 ?

I'm not trying to compare any of these guys, just saying risky spinning attacks can leave you wide open and this is the only weakness I see in Jones, he's a little wild in there.

 

Shogun would have been the pick before they actually fought. You watch him take out Machida and it's easy enough to visualize him doing the same thing to Jones. Stand in the pocket and land a big shot. I still think Shogun might have the best chance of those listed, but he'd have to fight more aggressively.

The closest guy to Shogun is Henderson so he's a possible pick.

I went with Anderson. He's the best fighter on the list, he can win on his back or on his feet against Jones, and he has probably the best chance to capitalize on a Jones mistake.

Fact is, small gloves = short winning streaks. Regardless of how good Jones is, he's probably going to lose sooner than later.

 

Yep.

 

Along w/"Injured", that Seems to B your BUILT-IN Excuse whenever a Guy LOSES a Fight...After All the HYPE, the SHITTALK & an Entire Episode of TUF, if Rampage REALLY Came Into that Fight "Undertrained" he's CHEATING the Sport of MMA & DOESN'T Deserve the Benefit of that Doubt that U're Affording him...

Rashad Took Rampage Down NEARLY @ Will...He Beat Rampage Because he was Younger, Fresher & More ATHLETIC...NOT Because Rampage "Undertrained"...


REED:dancingBaby:

 

As Others have Said, U Can Name Guys w/PUNCHERS Chances, but that's about It...Rashad has the HANDSPEED, TIMING, POWER & COUNTERPUNCHING Ability to Spring an Upset...1 of those SNEAKY Shots that he Iced Chuck Lidell & Knocked Rampage Clear Across the Cage w/Could CONCEIVABLY Put Jones in a Compromising Position...

If Jones Wanted to Beat Rampage @ his OWN Game, Rampage's CHIN, TOUGHNESS, POWER & BOXING Ability Could Lead to an Upset...But These AREN"T the Type of Scenario's to Wager SMART Money on...

It's Probably NOT Gonna Happen @ 205...Jones is Toooo BIG, FAST, STRONG, AGILE, ATHLETIC, YOUNG & he's a WILLING Student...For the Next Little While, Dude is Gonna Look Better & BETTER w/Each Ensuing Fight...




REED:hammert:

 

You've got to be kidding me with this.

 

No, U Seem to B Doing QUITE a Job of "Kidding" YOURSELF if U're HONESTLY Telling REED that Rampage "Undertrained"...

For Perhaps the Most Heavily HYPED Fight of his Career, Against the 1 Guy he ALLEGEDLY Wanted to Beat MORE than Any Other, a Fight that was POSTPONED, a Fight that he Had Damn Near a YEAR to Prepare For, Rampage "Undertrained" for the Fight???...

U'll Probably Cling to Something Flimsy, like Filming the "A-Team", but REED AIN'T Buying it...



REED:hammert:

 

Do you follow MMA? Like at all?

Everyone knew Rampage didn't give a fuck about fighting. He was "retired", filming movies, and generally just not training. A lot of people didn't even think he'd get up for the Machida fight.


As for your took him down at will quotes, more proof of your ignorance.

Rashad failed miserably to take down Rampage for 2 whole rounds and only got him down when Rampage gassed, then even then he couldn't hold him down.

 

Spare REED your Elitist, PRICKish, JUVENILE Brand of Bullshit, Homegirl...REED's Been Watching MMA for Nearly 4 Years (Rampage vs. Henderson PPV) & Though there's PLENTY of Guys in this Forum that Know MORE about the Sport, REED is CONTENT w/his Grasp of It...

But Perhaps YOU Need to Tighten Up on YOUR Grasp of it, w/your PSUEDO Know-it-All Ass...Case in Point, Rashad Took Rampage Down as Early as Round 1...WATCH the Fucking Fight...It was JUST Replayed on "UFC Unleashed" This Past Saturday Evening...w/2 Minutes & 18 Seconds Left in Round 1, DOWN GOES RAMPAGE...Rashad Kept him There for Half a Minute...

So to Say Rashad "Only Got him Down when Rampage Gassed" is More Proof of Ignorance Alright, YOUR Ignorance...Moreso, U Say Rashad "Couldn't Hold him Down"???...N the 3rd Round, Rashad Took Rampage Down w/1:50 Left & KEPT Him There Until there was 15 Seconds Left in the Fucking Fight...

Do YOU Follow MMA @ All???...Like @ ALL??...Do U Actually WATCH Fights Before Spewing Verbal EXCREMENT from your Lips???...

REED Said Rashad NEARLY Took Rampage Down @ Will...Rashad Dictated the ENTIRE Fight, Except for a BRIEF Moment in Round 3, when Rampage Rocked him to the Ground w/Some Shots...But Other than That, Rashad BACKED Rampage Against the Fence, Got the Better of the Clinches, Befuddled him w/his SPEED & Took Rampage Down EASIER than U're Willing to Admit...



REED:Lok:

 

:atu:

Fail attempt to save face.

 

Realistically, it's Silva, because he is simply much better than everyone else on that list.

Second, would be Henderson. Tough, good power, good wrestling.

 

Laughing Smiley's WON'T Help to Remove the FOOT from Your Own Mouth, for the IGNORANT Quotes of YOURS...

Rashad failed miserably to take down Rampage for 2 whole rounds and only got him down when Rampage gassed, then even then he couldn't hold him down


WOW!!!...& You Fancy YOURSELF as Some Sort of MMA Know-it-All???...


REED:hammert:

 

3 successful attempts out of double digit attempts.

Good job REED. You are about as smart as you look.

Also, :atu: bragging that Rashad held Rampage down for a WHOLE 30 SECONDS(WOW!, what SUPERIOR ground control)

What a failure.

 

So did it Take Rashad "2 FULL Rounds" To Take a "Gassed" Rampage Down OR, was Rampage Taken Down in the VERY 1st Round???...So Rashad REALLY "Couldn't Hold him Down" OR, did he Keep Rampage on the Ground for MORE than 1 1/2 Minutes, @ the End of Round 3???...

The Fact is, REED is PIMPSLAPPING your Sorry Ass w/YOUR OWN Quotes...& ALL U Can Conjure Up in the Form of a Retort is a LAUGHING Smiley???...If U Know HALF as Much about MMA as U Claim, NOW is the Time to TAPthefuckOUT....



REED:kidcool:

 

1 and half minutes. Again, a staggering amount of time according to REED.

On a gassed fighter at that.

This is like arguing quantum physics with a kid taking physical science.

 

I don't think it would be Anderson. I think Jones would fuck his world up on the ground.

I think if Machida could keep away from Jones grasp, he can eek out a boring decision.

 

The guy who could get inside either standing or on the ground. Whoever stands in front of him or has him in on his guard, is getting not defeated, but DESTROYED.

Jones is VICIOUS. He literally BREAKS people. I don't know HOW he makes 205. He has a huge wingspan and is 6'4" and strong as heck.

Dan Henderson MAYBE could with his overhand right.

 

Hendo would probably get stopped.

Hendo doesn't do well against people who take him down. He's much better against strikers.

 

He also has great takedown defense. Jones is a great striker and with variety.

I just read Jones saw a robbery hours before his fight, instead of thinking fuck them, I got to rest for the fight of my career, he ran down the robber and recovered the stolen property.

Jones is not only UFC lightheavy champion but also a HERO.

 

He MIGHT be able to do it if Jones doesn't stay composed in the pocket and gets caught lounging. He has to TIME his shoot, a dangerous proposition. Plus he is over 40.

 

Silva and Jones right now are not from this planet. I just wish they were more the same SIZE.

I rather see GSP-Silva first perhaps at a catchweight. Rashad is getting CRUSHED. Perhaps he will develop a solid fightplan, from knowing Jones so well from sparring, but wherever the fight goes, I give him a slim to none chance of beating Jones.

 

When the UFC refuses to co-promote and try to make the best matchups possible, and these FIGHTERS remain fearless, we might see both fights.

The only one pulling a half-Mayweather right now is GSP, which is understandable. He has a tough fight with Shields. He has shown hesitation in fighting bigger guys and moving up in weight, because he is concerned of not being able to come down after going up.

 

This myth again. Hendo's TDD had been consistently mediocre through his career. Jones would get him down effortlessly.

 

No fucking way, not even the slimmest of chances.

I would have thought his most recent few fights would have been enough to tell you, he's simply not that good.

Machida wouldn't even be competitive with Jones.

Yes Jones could outwrestle Silva easily, but Silva has better standup. Even with the reach deficit, I can see Silva beating Jones standing.

 

i wouldnt pick anyone to beat jones right now. if anyone had the best shot, it was shogun based on his striking, but we obviously saw how that went.

no one's unbeatable in this sport, so it wouldnt shock me to see any top level guys beat this kid, but from a logical standpoint, jones clearly is a notch or two above everyone in his division.

 

I didn't say he WOULD beat him, I said, based on his style, he could stick and move his way to a boring decision. Styles make fights. If you say this is impossible, you simply don't know MMA. Machida has some of the best TDD in the business and is quick on his feet. And to say Machida is not good due to his fight vs. Rampage is just ignorant. Many think Machida deserved the nod and he was coming off of a brutal KO.

I still think Jones would be all wrong for Andrerson. Anderson won't have the length advantage he usually has. Jones will have no problem taking him down. Imagine Sonnen but lethal ground and pound to go with it.


Styles make fights.