Who hates Lennox Lewis the most?

Lewis was tired as fuck in the Vitali fight. Him slumping onto his stool like he did was a pretty clear indication. Maybe he would have won anyways but he was clearly tired as hell himself.

 

dsimon writes:

Witherspoon was damn good. King broke his spirit with King's patented steal and rob a fighter blind bullshit. On his good days Witherspoon could have been a threat. He is one of my favorites.

 

dsimon writes:

Thats true. Lewis' mom would come to sparring sessions and make him tea and crumpkets. When he would get stretched she got upset. Reportedly Lewis got up off the canvas asked for his mom after a viscious beating from Ruiz and was sniffling. Manny got quite heated and went for Stoney (Ruiz' manager at the time) and the Roger Mayweather started to mispell words in the process. Ruiz called Lewis and his mom Puerto Rican haters, they were seperated by another fighter and to this day Lewis will piss in his pants when Ruiz name is mentioned.....

Also: When Rahman body slammed Lewis it broke off one of Lewis' dread locks and he had to have hair surgery. Lewis never forgave Rahman for destroying his banquet table with that body slam.

 

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Isn't me saying Lewis woulda beaten Vitali if the fight continued the same as you saying Ike would crush Lewis? None of it can be proven. But the truth is, Ike couldn't back Tua off for 12 rounds whereas Lewis had the little guy scared to f*ck from a couple of punches.::
And Ike never fought any big man in his career anywhere near the size, the power, and the reach and skills of a Lennox Lewis. Ike never fought a Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer, McCall, Rahman, Sanders, Klitschko, Johnson, Witherspoon, Golota, Ruiz, Ruddock, or anybody. All he's got is Tua who on many scorecards beat Ike, and the Byrd fight, the little 203lb Chris Byrd who got caught with a big shot when he got content laying on the ropes.
The jury was still way out on Ike.

 

He still had a much better sixth round. He landed that huge uppercut early and then looked like he hurt Klitschko - who was doing a lot of holding late in the round and pushing a lot of his punches - with a right around the temple with about 10 or so seconds left that had Klitschko really grasping.

They were both tired, but Lewis appeared to have more left, he was doing more to make the fight, plus his wasn't the face that was completely carved up.

Advantage Lewis if it continued.

 

I didn't dispute that Vitali was hurt in round 6 but LL was certainly tired as hell after the round. Fight could have gone either way at that point. Regardless of if he hurt Vitali that round, Vitali still recovered and made it out of the round. Didn;t really matter because they stopped it anyways but at the time of the stoppage the fight was pretty clearly still on the table and could have gone either way.

 

I don't know. Klitschko looked like some of the life sorta went outa him after that right landed. He was holding on hard and still took a couple hard shots before the bell.

I think he was glad to hear that bell ring...they both were, but Klitschko perhaps moreso...and I don't think either minded the California rule allowing the clock to stop while the doctor came into the ring.::

Still, given how much steam had gone out of Klitschko's punches and the way round 6 ended, I have to think Lewis would've had the advantage if it goes to a seventh.

 

It is obvious now Esk deserves this title. He can go on for 20 pages posting his hatred. He won't care if he gets proven wrong, he makes up new stuf and continues. Noone hates like him

 

I didn't realize you were a Floyd hater :bears:

 

Fight went back and forth a bit. The fact is LL was down 4-2. What happened in round 6 wasn't necessarily indicative of what happens in 7-12.

 

Well, first of all, I see no way that fight goes 12 unless they sleepwalk through the last four.

It was 4-2 on the official cards, though 3-3 is more than acceptable, IMO.

I agree what happened in round 6 isn't indicative of what could've happened, but if you're trying to speculate, I think round 6 is a better round to look at than, say, round 2.

Plus, Lewis has gutted out tough wins before. Much less history of that in Klitschko's past.

 

Vitali fought at the pace they were fighting in a lot more fights than LL did who likes a more controlled and slower pace. Vitali lost round 6 badly but it's not like we haven't seen fighters get a 2nd wind before. In my eyes the fight could have gone 12. I mean as badly as LL had Viltali hurt in round 6 and he really didn't do shit about it. Scorecards were fine with me.

 

He had him hurt with seconds to go in the round from a right hand, Klitschko held on dearly, and Lewis landed a nice uppercut and right, I believe, just before the bell. That's about the last thing that happened in the fight.

The fight was 4-2 or 3-3 on just about every scorecard at the time. It's not worth debating, I'm just pointing out that many people had it even after 6.

Klitschko hasn't been in that many fights where he was getting hit like that. He's scored a number of late stoppages, but in most of those fights he's exerted some sort of control over the tempo and pace. Lewis was the one pushing the pace in the later goings of that fight. It's not something Klitschko - either one, to be frank - is used to.

 

Actually I just looked and yeah there was about 16 seconds when LL hurt him. Regardless he couldn't finish. I stand by my initial comment. Both guys were tired as fuck and the fight could have gone either way in a fight that Vitali was winning. Vitali has fought more fights in that pace than LL.

 

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BTW-The stoppage was a bad 1, Vitali's face didn;t look any worse than the round before.

 

He had over 100 stitches and it wasn't going to get any better. Take away the blood and he was leatherface.

 

Just like the round before.

 

Perhaps, but then maybe that's more of an argument for stopping it after 5 than letting it go into the 7th. ::

If they don't stop it after 6, I still don't see them allowing any more than one or two more rounds at the most, and no matter when it gets stopped b/c of he cuts - if that's what would've happened - it's a TKO for Lewis.

That result seems pretty inescapable to me.

 

That's your argument? They shouldn't have let it go to the 6th ::

 

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The argument is he was no worse off than the round before. If the cut gets worse than stop it, if not let it go. it is a fucking fight afterall.

 

Is that your medical opinion?

 

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So you are saying Vitali was in much worse shape after 6 than 5? I certainly didn't see that. Then again you are a LL fan. Personally I don't give a shit about either of them but my eyes saw what they saw. A fight that could have gone either way that was stopped prematurely.

 

I am saying it was ugly in the fifth and it could have been stopped then, but is was chosen to happen in the 6th. It happens all the time, a fighter given another round when it could have been stopped then. Are you looking for a conspiracy here, while negating what we all witnessed what leatherface looked like :dunno: Over 100 stitches, and it was stopped prematurely? Are you being serious?

 

Who said anything about a conspiracy? I said it was a bad stoppage because that's how I feel. Am I supposed to change my opinion to make you shut up? Not going to happen. :notallthere: he was able to fight round 5 and 6 looking the same way there was no reason to stop that fight.

 

You have never seen a fight stopped on cuts?

 

Sure and this fight shouldn;t have been when it was. have you never seen a guy fight rounds with bad cuts? I sure have ESPECIALLY if it's not messing up a guys vision.

 

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Thanks for making my point.:bears: The pictures look nasty but I don't see blood streaming into his eyes.

 

:laughing: you are blind. He doesn't have an eyebrow and his shoulders should be white ::