Who is the welterweight champion now?

U DO Realize that 147 is a BETTER Division than Heavyweight, Don't U???...& SURELY U Realize that Manny Pac, Sugar Shane Mosley AND Floyd Mayweather (& Quite Possibly Miguel Cotto) Will ALL B Treated More FAVORABLY by History than EITHER of the KLIT Brothers (1 of whom has ALSO Been LINKED to Drugs) ????....

Even by YOUR Standards, Referring to the Welter Division as a "Ball of Shit" is COMICAL, Considering YOUR LOVE of All Things 201 +....



REED:shit:

 

You know the difference between right and wrong,.. but you have alot more fun twisting what you KNOW is wrong to fool the vulnerables into believing it's right,... ya Ambulance chaser..:crafty:

You're a good sport though,..so is your nemessis Reed,..

 

Yeah. Shit like this is something I got used to a loooooooooong time ago.

Francisco Panchito Bojado will probably get more favourable treatment than the Klitschkos...but all this proves is that the world is full of assholes.

How do you feel about Manny Pac getting more love than a K-bro. Are your allegiances twisted on that one?

 

So Basically, U were Debating BOTH Sides of the Issue, just for the FUCK Of It???...U Argued AGAINST Floyd's Questioning of the Legitimacy of Pac's Wins, yet NOW (when it SUITS your PSUEDO "Point"), U'll GLADLY Play that VERY SAME Card???....



REED:shit:

 

Manny Pac's Achieved SIGNIFICANTLY MORE than the Klit Brothers COMBINED....So to Answer your Question, REED is QUITE Fine w/him Getting More Favorable Treatment....

Since Pac AND @ Least 1 Klit Brother have Been Linked to PED's, WHY would there B Any "Twisted Allegiances"???....



REEDopcorn:

 

While Im having a dual stirring session here,... :crafty: I may take the time to remind Reed of his 3 year relentless campaign of defending Carlos Baldomir as a worthy opponent,.. only for Reed to finally admit it was a "bullshit opponent for Floyd to take and Reed was man enough to admit it"...:crafty: thus,.. you and the Irishman,.. have more in common than you both realise,..you both tend to dip the bicky into the same cup where convenient.

 

Only a moron rules out the possibility. When did I rule that out. I only said that his having a full head of hair meant nothing. Is there evidence? Maybe...


But the proof is simply not there, and the standard of proof and burden of proof being proposed by you, Floyd, Ricky Shafter and Oscar was all wrong.

For the time being, Manny Pac is clean, if for no other reason than because thats how shit works in the US.

He is innocent until proven otherwise and if that means that a guy who did use gear gets a better rep than fighters who didnt then you, me, the Queen and everyone else is going to have to sit here and tolerate it.

But for the record...if he IS cheating, and IS getting away with it, I am no more kosher with that than you are. Where we differ is on procedure, and the standards/burden of PROOF.

 

WHEN did REED Do Such a Thing???....


REED:dunno:

 

I hate to differ with you Sir...but I never ruled out the possibility that Pac was cheating. Where I strongly disagreed with Reed was on the matter of why Pac should be tested {Floyds say-so}, with Floyd having already said that Pac only made flyweight because he was a teenager at the time. Now all of a sudden...there is an impetus to test Manny, despite the hitherto unimpressive nature of his body of work in the lower divisions, as per Floyd Jr. himself, in interviews which I posted.

What I cannot tolerate is Manny being tested on the whim of a collection of individuals such as G and HBO.

 

:dunno: I dont remember it either.

 

Once again, Manny Pac took drugs, assuming he took them, as an active part of his career. Vitali Klitschko failed a test having been administered with substances under record by a registered doctor for non-sporting purposes. That is a difference.

If Manny Pac has been taking PED's as an integral part of his rise through the ranks...then everything he does is as null and void as many have argued Margaritos win over Cotto is.

Manny cannot wipe his ass with the Klitschkos and do drugs, all at the same time.:dunno:

 

Dude, when Floyd FIRST Suggested Random Testing YOU were Amongst THE HARSHEST Critics AGAINST Such a Thing....To Take THAT Stance only to Turn Around & THEN Dip your Toe into the PED Pond (to BENEFIT your TIRED Heavyweight SCHTICK) is HYPOCRISY @ it's Finest....

U're Running Around on BOTH Sides, like a Guy Playing TENNIS w/HIMSELF....



REED:shit:

 

Once again....I do not object to testing. I object to testing carried out as it is upon the cabalistic whim of G,HBO and The Mayweather Underground.

I am not, per se, a harsh critic of testing. I never was. I disapprove of local, subjective attempts to have testing introduced on whims.

 

:bears: Ahh reconciliation pets, reconciliation,.. lovely to see..

1) Reed,....please :nono: if you genuinely cannot recall you posting that, fine,... but if you can, and are pretending it never happenned... once again... Reed,...please :nono:

2) As for you,.. cracker,.. you so heavily invested in a case that there was 'no evidence' 'no evidence' naaah naaah nanaaaaah naaah,..not enough to warrant this unfair suspicion,........... but you've confirmed...due to it being beneficial to your current argument, that it has crossed your mind... :crafty: ,..that the circumstantial evidence, does indeed add up.

 

REED HONESTLY Does Not Recall Backtracking as U've Stated he Did, Kauki...If Evidence of REED Doing Such a Thing is POSTED, he has NO Problems ADMITTING he was Wrong...


REED:hammert:

 

I didnt say there was no evidence. I said there was NO PROOF.

English, Motherfuckers! Do you read it????::::

 

Guys ONLY Cling to it to Prop Up their PERSONAL Favorites...Even Us Floyd Fans R Guilty...THE ONLY Redeeming Quality that Baldomir had was the "Lineal" Welterweight Championship...

N Every OTHER Regard, that was a BULLSHIT Fight for Floyd...REED is MAN Enough to ADMIT it...

REED:dunno:


:crafty:

 

Damn!!!...REED Stands CORRECTED...REED was WRONG...Nice Find, Kauki!!!....



REED:doh:

 

When someone is guilty of something,..it begins with circumstantial evidence,.. and as you have indicated, it has registered with you, it has for good reason influenced your opinion.. :crafty: ,.. and so what would be the next step to take, since he's become a suspect, in establishing more proof?... A step, in the direction that you have argued he should not be forced to take,..In other words,.. you have no problem with the environment inwhich he can take performance enhancing drugs,.. and thus you shouldn't have made mention of his likely drug use in this thread, because from a broader 'tactical' point of view, :crafty: it doesn't help your OTHER agenda,.. for it is contradictory.

 

This forum archive only goes back 20 pages,...had it not been for Google,..I'd have looked like a devious schemer. :crafty:

 

you wont find shit on here where i claim baldomir is anything other than a talentless heavybag

 

talentless light-heavybag.

 

No I won't Neil,.. :crafty: but you should still be ashamed for glorifying Corey Spinks as an awesome opponent for Mayweather at that time.

 

Doesn't that also tell you that most people here think correctly and that YOU ARE WRONG??:boohoo::kick:

 

So who's right here? Reeds saying Margarito won Floyd's belt and Slys claiming Berto did?

Que?

 

not awesome, but more credible than baldomir. and at least as credible as margarito was at the time.

 

And you forget the next on that list, the memorable Sosnowky. On that list, only Gomez and Peter are acceptable, the others may be fine for a tuneup but when you face 3 tune up in a row, it's king of sickening

 

And Roid Shane Mosely is not ???
Given the choice, I'd much rather face someone with wet plaster of paris in his gloves than someone hooked on roids

 

I didn't get Double L post either

 

I say vacant but I think Mosley has the strongest claim.