Who REALLY Won The Fight?,.. Froch or Dirrell

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Who Deserved The Decision,..

  1. Carl Froch

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    51.0%
  2. Andre Dirrell

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    49.0%
  1. Nobleart

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    I think the problem was not enough people actually cared to even score the fight after the first couple of rounds or so. I plead guilty myself. I think I was half watching, just hoping something would happen. Either Dirrell landing one of his surprising quick hooks before a clutch, and hurting Froch like he has lesser opponents, or having Froch finally catch Dirrell mid-lunge and knock him TFO!

    None of that happened at any point in time. :bangh:
     
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    It's only "done something" for American fighters. The foreigners who've competed and had success in the Contender have gotten next to no benefit from that lockin contract sham.
     
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    Fuck you straight in the ass for making me Google that! :flip:



    :laughing: :lol:
     
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    That's too bad. I've never had enough patience to sit through more then a few episodes of that series anyways. I liked the fact it was originally on a network and might have helped boxing mainstream itself again with the general american public, but once it went to basic cable it just became another reality show. We already have actual boxing events on basic cable tv.

    :shit:
     
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    Fuck yes,.. Bikky has my vote to replace Taylor aswell, he'll give anybody a horrible gruelling encounter,.. and he'd frankly fuck Froch up.
     
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    ....he alone will be responsible for at least two fights being postponed due to cuts.
     
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    i thought dirrell won it pretty easily, not saying it was pretty but he landed the cleaner punches by far, and more of them

    he did hold alot and duck down but froch was hitting on the back of the head (even when dirrell wasnt ducking down) and basically threw the dude to the canvas

    dirrells defense was pretty good, i remember (forget the round) when froch had dirrell in a corner and missed every punch he threw save maybe one and dirrell coming out of if with 2 big left hooks

    i thought dirrell may even have stung froch a couple times

    fucking froch after the fight, "i think the crowd agrees i won the fight"

    no shit asshole, its your hometown

    on a side note, didnt think the ref shoulda took a point, considering how rough it was with both guys
     
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    Bottom line: Dirrel cheated and bitched his way through the first 10 rounds - the right man won.
     
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    Exactly. I looked at the clock and thought often how I would rather be asleep than watch Dirrell. I hope Abraham decapitates him.
     
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    funny thing is alot blame Dirrell for running yet if he stood in front of Froch and got kod nobody would praise him for being a warrior.

    Most would laugh at him for fighting stupid knowing he was faster and had better skills than Froch.

    At the end of the day is who won the fight not who you want to win based on styles. You can't change the rules.

    Maybe if Froch wasn't so fucking slow he wouldn't look so silly in there.

    Neither Dirrell nor Froch are winning this tourney anyway.
     
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    As usual, you are full of shit. What Dirrell did was cowardice. It was taking money and not even putting up a pretense of fighting.No one is saying that he had to go toe to toe with the guy. He easily could have outboxed Froch if Dirrell had half a ball. He is just a fucking pussy. Frankly, he should be thrown out of the tournament. He isn't a professional fighter. He is a disgrace.
     
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    please! your shitting on a fighter as usual doesn't matter who according to you he is garbage.

    At the end of the day even if he ran he still outpointed Froch. Why don't you know Froch for being so one dimensional.

    at times he looked like the bull chasing the bullfighter. he looked silly and all he could do is bitch about it.

    I am not a fan of Dirrell nor am I a fan of Froch.
     
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    Look, I said this from the beginning of the Super 6 tourney. Kessler is the only elite fighter and Ward has a chance. The rest of them are flawed. Froch blows. He is worsae than Abraham and for me that is an insult.


    I am not disputing Froch blows or Dirrell outlanded him. I think Froch deserved the win without landing a single punch. Froch was effectively aggressive when he makes his opponent run in abject fear, embarrassing himself, his country, his children, his family, his ancestors, his offspring, his network, the sport of boxing and men as a race.
     
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    Hopefully, this will spell trouble for Dirrell's career, as it stands now, with his p. pussy amateur style.
     
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    Dude, are you mocking Taylor or what?
     
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    You mean by my post or... my siggy?..
     
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    If dirrell would have fought the whole

    fight like he did rounds 11 and 12 i would have no criticism of him. But running for 10 and actually boxing for 2 just doesn't cut it.
     
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    Same here.

     
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    Also, did you notice they didn't put up punch stats after the fight? I don't know if that's just b/c Showtime sucks when covering boxing (& they do) or if someone dropped the ball on that one. Also when they were replaying highlights after the fight they showed where Dirrell hurt Froch but there was really no memorable highlight on Froch's end. I think they showed where he was hitting him durring one of the clinches.

    I thought it was a close fight that Dirrell won, but I don't have any problem with the decision. As has been said you have to take the champion's belt & make it obvious, Dirrell didn't do that.
     
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    I hate this statement and have read it several times in this thread.

    This is one of the most bogus statements in boxing. The scoring rules of boxing apply to everyone and every fight.

    The only safety net a champion has is that he keeps the belt if there's a draw.
     
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    how about, the guy who actually fights get the benefit of the doubt in close rounds.

    The guy who holds/runs loses close rounds.

    Dirrell fought like John Ruiz with skills, and thats not meant as a compliment
     
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    I'd tap that, good stuff.
     
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    But froch didn't land anything. So how should he be credited with anything?

    Do people have an argument with ruiz? Yes, because people still managed to land punches on him.
     
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    My answer to that is yes. If you turn your opponent into a holding, running, flopping cunt then you are being effectively aggressive and anything he lands counts so long as you deduct for every negative action. This is why I have never scored a fight for Fres Oquendo. If you count all the negative activity and take a punch for a hold, the man has never won a round.

    I would have given the fight to Froch if he landed zero punches. What Dirrell did was a complete disgrace to any martial art.
     
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    Split right down the middle, 24 a piece, awesome poll.
     
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    I guess it could be called ring generalship when he makes his opponent move and avoid all exchanges. Also you could argue that he 'won' the situations when he tried to punch and Dirrel slipped one shot and leaned on him. When neither fighter does anything, I think the round should be given (and rules can be read that way too) to the fighter who tries to make a fight
     
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    Yep :bears:

    But honestly, this is a very surprising post coming from a hardcore Lewis fan :lol:
     
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    Jabbing and moving is way different from trying to avoid boxing.

    The thing is, if you fight in a manner where your opponent can not land anything, it is all good whether you do it in Wlad, Lennox, Toney or Ali style.

    If you fight in a manner where your opponent can not land anything and you do it by not landing anything yourself either, then you are losing.

    Fighting careful is great, fighting boring is acceptable, trying to stop the fight from happening is neither
     
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