whos picking hatton

That's it. Floyd's done.

 

Even if the fight is competatitve you will say "MAYWEATHER DOMINATED"..

 

So the answer to Junior Witter's girlfriend's question is 'not many'... ::

Some very good and respected posters are picking PBF, and it is no surprise to see it, but something just gnaws away at me about this fight.

I STILL cant get over the underestimation of Hatton going into this fight. He is still an undefeated, two-weight world champion still, right?

There are some here (and I honestly think Floyd thinks the same) who consider Hatton as no more a problem to PBF than Arturo Gatti. :nono: Madness...

I KNOW Hatton looked flaky against Collazo, and I admit that the fact that this fight is at 147 is a major disadvantage (on the face of things) for Ricky, but he did BEAT Collazo in that fight, if memory serves :dunno:

Hatton hits a lot harder that PBF in my view. Seriously. I know Floyd is better than this lot, but Hatton KO'd Castillo with a liver shot, made Tszyu quit on his stool, iced Maussa with a single shot and even though he was 'shit' against Collazo, he scored the only knock-down in the fight. The boy has SIGNIFICANT power.

He also has much better footwork and hand-speed than he is being given credit for, as well as being a strong SOB (even if he loses some of his strength at 147). IMO he is quick enough to get inside Floyd and lean on him to unload often enough to make him work for his money. Hatton clinches a fair old bit, but he usually clinches to create attacks- the 'hook and hold' thing isn't strictly accurate; if anything, it'd be better to say hold and hook'.

Hatton's other major plus is his chin. He will try to fight Floyd like he fought Tszyu- he will come forward, walk through what he has to and work once he is inside. And it worked that night. Watch the fight again, especially the first six rounds. I'm sure at least three of them start with Hatton walking straight out into a Tszyu right to the chin at near full elevation. This is Tsyzu who made Zab go dancing and had Mitchell bouncing off the canvas like a ping-pong ball. Hatton didn't flinch; he just walked through and leaned in to unload. I know Floyd is better than Kostya overall (probably :: ), but I'm not sure how much difference (if any) there is in terms of each man's right hand. I fancy Hatton won't be stopped in his tracks...

For all of this, PBF is the rightful favourite, but Hatton is a lot better and a much more live of a dog than people seem to think. This will be no picnic for Floyd; I think Hatton will hurt him even if he loses, I really do...

In all events, I can't wait for this fight :cheer:

MTF

 

With all respect to the rest of your post, this is all you really needed to say. In my view, the entire fight hinges on this very question. I would actually take it a step further and say that IF Hatton CAN'T slow Floyd down early on, he has very little chance of winning the fight.

I expect Hatton to have some crowd-pleasing flurries in the round 2 through round 5 range, but slowly start to fade as the night goes on. Hatton becomes a VERY basic fighter when he slows down, as he did in spots vs. Urango and for the last few round in the Collazo fight.

If Hatton's fitness is not better than its ever been, it will be target practice for PBF, who will (in my mind) be gunning for a knockout.

Contrary to the spirit of this thread, I am actually going to predict a dominating Mayweather win on 12/8. I think Hatton's flaws set up perfectly for PBF to look spectacular.

 

I am picking Hatton.

I am a "journeyman" predictor, with about a .500 record, but I have a strong feeling about this.

 

dsimon writes:

You seem so sensative about that Donny... Did you have a religious crisis? see Moses in a burning bush? :: Can I say religion is the opiate of the masses if I confess to having a fondness for Opium? :dunno:

 

:: No, I'm just trying to keep this forum focused on BOXING, which is in the rules.

There is plenty of this in TAAA and Smacktalk; we don't need it in a third forum.

That is all, Mr. D. :warning:

 

I don't understand some of you already claiming robbery.

If that's likely then why Didn't DLH buy the judges for his fight against Floyd?:dunno:

GoldenBoy signed Hatton for this fight only. It's not like he is part of their stable from now on.

Either way Floyd would give him a beating. But looking at Floyd's history and how powerful he is now in boxing. I can't see him losing a close decision.

 

Hatton is one of my favorite fighters, but he loses here.

 

Plans for a possible Oscar-Hatton fight next May is presently boxing's worst-kept secret.

To be honest, I'd be tempted to root for Hatton to win just to avoid seeing Floyd-DLH II. But instead, I'll hold out hope that, after Floyd wins (in clear fashion, though also knowinghe was in a fight), someone serves as a liasion in bridging the gap between Floyd and Arum, thus making Floyd-Cotto a possiblity in 2008.

Then again, Oscar and Hatton can still fight each other next year. Both would be coming off of a loss, and with no title, no pressure for Oscar to pretend to make 147.

 

Word is that Oscar wants to fight Zab.

 

Floyd Cotto is not a good matchup. Floyd wins easily.
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Hatton IS exciting.. it's just if we are realistic, this is a mismatch, Floyd is going to sodomize this gay whitey

 

I have nothing bad to say about Ricky Hatton as a person... I actually think he seems like a cooll guy, but he's totally in over his head in this fight. Totally different level of boxing.
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I wish this fight had taken place at 140.
I've seen Ricky look bad at 147 and I've seen Floyd look just fine against a 154 lber.
So the pick is Floyd by decision.

I think Floyd by KO is a pretty flakey pick and can't be based on anything other than hope, though.

The best Hatton beats more than just the worst version of Floyd, imo. And Hatton's style increases the chances of Floyd hurting his hands.

I like both of these guys, but I guess I like Hatton better. Floyd was much cooler back when he wasn't trying to sell fights with his big ego routine. Back when he was bitching about 'slave wages' being offered from HBO, besides being right, he was just being real. Hatton's personality hasn't changed.

 

The first sane post for a while :clap:

If this fight was at 140, then Hatton would be a slight favourite, IMO. The fact that it is at 147, and Hatton has not looked comfortable there in the past, is the major doubt I have about him going into the fight.

I wonder how many people would be picking PBF so readily and easily if the fight was at 140?

MTF

 

The Urango fight was at 140. Anyone ever think about the fact that Hatton struggling at 147 had something to do with his opponent? it wasn't exactly the first time he struggled against a fairly slick southpaw. I don't care what weight this fight is at I would pick Floyd. It's not like he is bigger than Hatton. Hell he fought the majority of his career in a lower weight division and his prime was in a lower weight division than Hatton as well.

 

The fight pans out the same at any weight. Floyd landing the cleaner sharper punches and moving out of Hattons range.
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A-la Whitaker-Chavez?

 

dsimon writes:

Says a guy whose predictive abilities led him to che' motel route 66! ::

 

Hatton....to the bitter end. Those who are saying that Hatton has looked horrible at 147 aren't in possession of the full facts- {they think they are but they aren't} of Hattons fight with Collazo, or more accurately the build up to that fight.

A more critical analysis of the pro-Floyd argument also reveals logical flaws: try and remember that Gattis "best days" {as horribly bad as Gattis best days were} came at 135 and under. Oscar, Floyds best win to date, too stammered badly at 147 against non 147 fighters, including the ridiculously talented but old and undersized Pea Whittaker, former lightweight Shane Mosley, and probably looked his out-and-out-best at 140. Gatti, in particular, was a horribly one-dimensional, a-defensive, cut prone face-first mugh whose "best days" were YEARS behind him by the time he faced Mayweather.

And Floyd didn't stop Gatti either, not in the conventional sense. If Gattis face, which swelled in his best days at 130, had stayed intact, it probably would have gone on further than it did.

Yet it is the Gatti fight against which Hattons chances are gauged. ::

 

Its not like he's on a roll, now is it!!

 

Floyd will knock him out

I don't even think this will be a battering on the ropes where the ref steps in, I think Floyd drops him 4 times and on the 4th, he can't get up anymore

 

Well that at least makes sense. Cos if Floyd dropped him 4 times and he couldn't get up on the 2nd I'd have to say you were making shit up.

 

If you're referring to the fact that Hatton had a relatively short time to prepare/adjust to fighting at 147 the first time vs. Collazo.....and that now he has had much more time to build his way to 147 and acclimate...then yes, some of us have taken that into account.

But the fact is many of the flaws I and others are pointing out about Hatton didn't just happen at 147 - they are showing (and HAVE been showing) at 140 as well. That is simply true.

And I don't see many folks gauging PBF-Hatton at 147 by using the Gatti fight. Some haters may, but that's just bias.

It's worth remembering that 140 PBF was closer to his prime and closer to his best as a fighter as well.

Your argument has flaws - because it doesn't consider WHO DLH 'stammered' against at 147 - which were basically the best and/or top-PxP fighters of the time - and the fact that win or lose they were very close, very competitive fights....and DLH started at 135.

Peace.

 

hatton loses speed and energy @147 - his bread and butter - that's the issue

 

In a backhanded kind of way, you make my argument for me. Floyds best win is Oscar- at 154. People look at 154 AND FORGET, however momentarily, that Oscar started in more or less the same place as Floyd, give or take a few lbs.

And Oscar was NOWHERE near as sharp vs Floyd as he could have been. He is, for all intents and purposes, a window shopper, a part-time Cherry picker, rather than a full-time Cherry Popper.

Not only do I CONSIDER who Oscar stammered against- I name them. And while they were the very very best, so is Hatton, and this Hatton is so much more than a part-timer.