Who's the worst forum nuthugger in terms of objectivity?

You are an old man and a fool.

 

Poor, poor Stafford. ::

 

"we don't REALLY know so therefore EVERYTHING is potentially correct" is the panic room for people who have illogical, ridiculous points of view that can not stand up to scrutiny

It's a point of view embraced by the ignorant

theres nothing wrong with being a fan of a fighter, but when you are just making unfounded declarations instead of really discussing the issues, what the fuck is the point of even discussing?

It's like trying to argue over whether blue is prettier than red

nuthuggers are useless to discuss boxing with because they will say anything to support their guy... no matter how untrue it is... I don't see how anyone would think it bad to disparage that sort of thing

 

this place is so cyclic its unbelievable. Grown men and horses ponying up insults to throw at each other.

TKO - Junior Witter

is the correct answer to this thread. Because even though Joe Louis would have his taint fed to him by Razor Ruddock, he's still a historically great fighter. Junior Witter sucks worse than Reed with Roy's balls near his face.

How did I become a Tyson nuthugger btw??

I'm a major Pac fan I'll take that, but objective analysis of Tyson's blatantly favorable matchup with Ali does not a nuthugger make.

 

Yes. Some opinions are educated and based in fact and then on the other hand...there are the nuthuggers...

 

Yeah, ok...whatever you say. ::

 

I don't see what is so messed up about thinking Tyson-Ali could be favourable to Mike. I'm no huge Tyson fan, and in general I can't stand his fans, but stylewise Tyson could give Ali absolute HELL early doors

 

That and his prolific username contained his name in the damn thing. slySTAFF.

It'd be like David Leeder complaining about people using his name on a forum....


O wait...

 

Also Xplosive and Chad Dawson deserves a mention.

I've never seen a man suggest that a fighter was still both better and should be higher ranked than a fighter that literally just clearly beat them in a fight with no controversy.

 

Aside from all the bickering, Tyson would've never, ever been remotely competitive with Ali. And I'm a huge Tyson fan.

 

Right, but who gets to define what is a fact and what is uneducated opinion? Are you really saying that when people get to know enough, they will agree on everything?

The Tyson-Ali example is a good one. I'd pick Ali but to me that is a very legitimate argument and picking Ali is not a fact by any means, nor is it necessarily even the more educated pick, even if it is the more popular one

 

right. :wack: you are full of shit, resto. i would pick ali to defeat tyson but to claim it would have been a mismatch is nonsense.

 

Oh, please Ugo. Stop pretending that you don't know when someone is just talking out of their ass, ignoring the facts and slanting things in a particular fighters favor.

I've seen you call bullshit on people in the past that were doing shit like this. The posts you created spoofing Kid Dynamite's endless Tyson nuthugging was, in my opinion, some of the very best posts ever on the forum. But now you've morphed into this politically correct poster who spends way too much time playing Devil's Advocate.

It's not all that hard to see when someone is full of shit and is just making things up as they go.

And Jaws, of course, is spinning things in a manner that works for him. I don't recall anyone calling him a nuthugger simply because he picked Tyson over Ali. But the bulk of his posts over the years regarding Tyson and other fighters nowhere as objective as he tries to appear. But, of course, he posts something misleading like that...and some folks latch on to it like floating wood after a boat wreck.

And for the record, I've never said that Ali-Tyson would not be competitive. That's just silly.

 

Actually...the point is that all Sly had to do was say, "please stop using my real first name" and that most likely would have ended it. But, as usual, he instead had to act like a douchebag about it and escalate a simple comment into the type of attention-grabbing confrontation that he lives for.

 

:bs:

 

"Terry Norris could handle Nigel Benn's punches"

this is clearly nonsense... all evidence points to the countrary

 

True. But drawing the line between 'enough evidence' is the problem IMO. Your example, as the Kid Dynamite one that BWJ brought up, are ones where pretty much everybody in the boxing world would agree on the contrary and I have no problem calling that 'nuthugging', if you wish. But stuff like Mayweather-Leonard is not anywhere close to that and that's all I am saying here: people are defined as 'nuthuggers' far too easily by some, since none and I mean NONE of us are completely objective

 

Saying Mayweather would be competetive with Marvin Hagler is just not sensible, any more than it is sensible to say Ricardo Lopez would be competetive with Wilfredo Gomez

Saying that Bernard Hopkins would cede a close decision loss to Mike Spinks at 175 is simply not logical

how is that not nuthugging?

 

Because I think a case could be made for this. Not that I would find that being the likely outcome, but I could see somebody who knows enough of boxing make that pick, it would be a case of having a different view.

Etienne KO Foreman = Obvious case of not knowing enough or having some motive to pick against knowledge (joking, playing favorites etc)

Bowe KO Foreman = Not likely according to most, but a reasonable case could perhaps be made by someone who knows boxing?

Drawing the line is damn difficult, and the reason why I oppose it is that drawing too many lines such as that prevent good discussions

 

:bears:

 

Which dumb motherf*cker said Sh*theadweather would be competitive with Hagler? Who said it??!?!? That little cunt f*ck bitch barely edged out a completely shot inactive Oscar with no stamina worth a sh*t! He f*cking ran the whole night and still lost 5 rounds legit against a shot Oscar. Hager would tear F*ckweather to shreds, spread his asscheeks and ram his cock up the cuntweather with his dick coming out of f*ckweather's mouth!
F*ckweather is overrated as hell! Little cunt with no balls!

 

you just agreed with me a page ago that Hopkins competing with Spinks was a ridiculous notion, now you are agreeing with Ugo that it is feasible

Ugo's analogy holds no water... Bowe was a very good heavyweight, as Foreman was also a formidable heavyweight

Spinks was one of the 5 best light heavyweights who ever lived, Hopkins was a terrific middleweight who has snuck by in fights against Light Heavies who couldn't be sparring partners for Michael Spinks

The biggest guy Floyd Mayweather ever fought was Oscar De La Hoya when the latter was faded and 150 odd pounds... Hoya hadn't fought in quite some time, he was coming down to a weight that he hadn't been at in years... and still it was a ho-hum performance, Mayweather had difficulty enough with that... Marvin Hagler in 1987 was still a very formidable force... He would have kicked the shit out of the very same DLH that Mayweather cautiously outboxed... A prime Marvin Hagler finishes that Oscar off in 6 rounds tops... It is absolute nonsense, knowing all of that, to make the claim that Floyd Mayweather gives Marvin a tough time... it's horseshit and it's fucking nuthugging... it bears a far greater resemblance to "Etienne KO5 Tyson" than it does to "Bowe KO9 Foreman"

 

NUTHUGGERY...

 

LOL @ Sly's BS about Floyd giving Hagler problems. Motherf*cker, the little cuntweather bastard would NOT even dream about stepping into the same f*cking ring as Hagler, let alone giving him trouble. The cockf*cker couldn't even put a mark on a shot inactive Oscar at 154, yet he's gonna give Hagler trouble at middleweight? :laughing::laughing:

 

Mayweather is undefeated..he has never let SLY down....no shit he doesn't challenge himself.....Sergio Martinez is there for a fight vs. any of the top guys...Why doesn't Mayweather fight him....see how he does against him...THEN we might be able to judge better how he will do vs. even a past his prime Hagler...


IN what does SLY base his opinion that Mayweather will give Hagler problems....:dunno: Mayweather has never face anyone as good as HAGLER...

 

JLC?

 

HELL NO...