Why can't Diaz punch hard?

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  1. Trey KO

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    Actually, my boxing brothers, I think that it has everything to do with the fact that he does not do push-ups or any of the explosive calisthenics.

    Juan Diaz does a lot of cardio work, which entiles swimming and stair-master work.

    Swimming does work every muscle in your body, but it does nothing for your explosiveness. That, in addition to not being born with natural heavy hands seems like the likely reason why his power is not what it could be.

    By the way, he does have good technique, especially when he squares up (which you're not supposed to do much of.) He has very good leverage and center of gravity; the explosive power is just not there!
     
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    Well, yes, and that's exactly my point. He doesn't have the natural explosion of energy/power that makes a good puncher.
     
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    Nate simply beat the shit out of Juan at Diazs' own game, trench warfare.
    Juan really hit him flush at least a half dozen times as well, but what the announcers failed to pick up on was that I saw Juan really hurt to the sides (flanks) several times, and that must have taken some of the steam out of the kid.
    I could see Nate putting that kind of performance together 7 or 8 years ago, but had no dreaming idea he could have turned back the clock and did it last night so convincingly over an undefeated multiple world champion.
    That was a bad cut in a bad place caused by a butt that Camobell put on Juan as well, but this is not ballet dancing, it's prizefighting.
    Juan has butted plenty of guys as well out there, but was simply outfought by a better fighter last night.
    I would love to see a rematch.
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    Wow, I can't believe you're making no excuses, and admitting Nate won fair and square. Even Caligula is full of bullshit excuses.
     
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    I thought heavy hands were like the tension of your finger tendons, some fighters can squeeze thier hands into a tight, hardenned ball and subsequently thier forearms also, without compromising thier handspeed much, whereas fighters like Calzaghe, keep the fingers relatively loose till impact, (and sometimes not, thus the "slapping").
     
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    when punching, Diaz doesn't lock his elbows, thath's why he slaps, bounce his shots. Also, as DB said, he doesn't fully commit to his punches and doesn't have a great weight transfer. Personnaly, I think the hand size argument is irrevalent.
     
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    some of you got some pretty simple reasons as to why Diaz can't punch hard.

    I'm guessing nobody has brought these reasons up to Juan in the gym for the last couple of years. :lol:
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Have you ever heard of "Newcomers syndrome?" Let me give an example. Martin Bernal wrote an authoritative piece of history on ancient Egypt. He never studied Eyptology, in fact his area of research was linguistics and political history. All the Egyptologists poo poo'd his work and it is now considered an authority on the subject.

    Heres my point. Sometimes the way things are done, in boxing, is such that a new comer would notice something that would not occur to a boxing trainer. With Diaz it wouldn't necessarily occur to somoene to critique the way he punches... I mean he wins, he has an exciting style, yada yada. Yet, I can tell you that somoene who knows about body mechanics who is not a boxing trainer would probably notice right away that Juan has certain punching habits... not good or bad, just habits.

    These tendencies affect how a fighter, Juan in this case, delivers his punches.
     
  10. Double L

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    it's his wrists. theyre weak and/or small.
     
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    He has small hands...who knows:dunno:
     
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    calzaghe tends to punch with the palm section of the hand. He rarely if ever connects with the knuckles, and when he does, he hurts his opponents. I think he may have brittle hands/knuckles, and that's why he slaps more than punch.
     
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    It's all about technique, he doesn't put all the weight in one single punch, instead he decides to sacrifice power for fluidity/speed. His style is such to overwhelm his opponents with smart volume punching. Pluse he might not train specifically to hit hard, which can be done with certain exercises and weight training. His body seems pudgy and fat, I doubt he spends much time on upper body/arms/abs. More like jumping rope and lots of in ring work.
     
  14. LATIN KING

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    you probably have a point. However the lack of power from Diaz has been an issue since he started boxing.

    I'm sure Diaz has at one time wondered how to increase his power and might have asked a person or two within the boxing world.

    I just figured someone might have suggested something at one time. I'm sure he has tried it at one time. Clearly nothing has helped. I just don't think i'ts a situation where Diaz never attempted to increase his power especially with his style.
     
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    sloppy has power when he needs it - different animal; theres's give when b. bull lands (wrists) that make his punches weak.
     
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    Juan Diaz to me looks like he needs to drop down in weight. He's small and fat at lightweight.
     

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