WHY DO YOU HATE CLARESSA SHIELDS?

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  1. REEDsART

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    Self Promotion ASIDE, This is Probably THE Briefest Synopsis of it All...For Real...

     
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    That was a VERY LOOONG Time Ago, REED.... I moved on when Esparza did a DISAPPEARING ACT and have not seen nor had contact with her for MANY YEARS. In fact that was so long ago - People were STILL doing 'ICE BUCKET CHALLENGES" Women's Boxing has Flatlined. Don't hold your breath waiting for that IN HIGH DEMAND Ali vs. Shields 'BLOCKBUSTER" to happen, bro. Sounds like it may be REED'S time to 'MOVE ON."
     
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    heres the thing reed. if you managed shields and there was a legitimate 15 million dollar offer, would you advise her to push for a 40/60 or better purse split at the expense of the bout not happening?

    If the ONLIEST way the bout would take place is for her to take 30%, would you still stand firm that she deserves more and bypass that payday?

    like you said, Ali is worth 10 million. so she doesnt need the money nor exposure as much as shields does. and like you also said, ali was never keen on facing the best opponents, even when she was active and at her peak. for 10 million though, Im sure ali would take an ass whipping. and in doing so boost the profile of shields to a known commodity and possibly a cross over name in the sport.
     
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    Can we change this to a men's boxing only forum?

    There should be a sub-section of the forum to discuss these sideshow hoes.

    BTW, Shields will never become a crossover female star. Like it or not, female athletes have to be attractive to breakthrough.

    That face on Shields is hit.

    Maybe she's jealous that dudes actually wanna fuck Laila.
     
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    REED Didn't Ask, Nor Does he Give a Fuck WHY Things Didn't Work Out w/Esparza, Bruh...Just Pointing Out the FACT You were Much More Optimistic About Women's Boxing Back Then, Which You WERE:Dont:...

    If' Women's Boxing has "Flat Lined" WHY EXACTLY Has Every 1 of Claressa Shields' Pro Fights Been TELEVISED, Karl???...Every Single 1 of Them, w/Out Fail...Why Has a Potentially EPIC Talent Like Jaron "Boots" Ennis Been on 2-3 Claressa Shields Undercards???...

    Why is Katie Taylor Prominently Featured on DAZN Undercards???...Why Does Top Rank Televise Mikaela Mayer Fights on ESPN???...Why was Laila Ali Purposely Brought On High Profile, Mainstream, Non-Sports Shows Like "Sway in the Morning" and the "Breakfast Club" AFTER a Recent Shields Fight???...

    Why Did ESPN Have Laila Ali on 'First Take', 1 of Their Absolute HIGHEST Rated Shows, the Day Before Wilder-Fury II, Talking About Claressa Shields???...

    Sounds Like it May Be Brother Karl's Time to WAKEthefuckUP!!!






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    I'm not involved in the fight racket anymore. I Moved On to Bigger and More Lucrative and Better things - You of All People know what that is- in fact you and I are the Only Ones here that do.
     
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    has reed been covertly working for the stingers sports entertainment website extravaganza???
     
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    No Bro - I work On Field Security for the NFL
     
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    any chance you could get me bill o'briens autograph, stinger?
     
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    I can't, bro. But he is a nice guy and if you ever saw him I am sure he would accommodate you. As of right now - I am hoping I am going to have a job when/if OTA's are scheduled to begin in 3 weeks. If not I'll have to find something else to do. I am sure staff will be cut either way.
     
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    To REED's Knowledge, They're Still Negotiating and w/That Said, What Happens if Claressa Says Cool to 30% and Laila Changes Her Mind Midstream???:Dont:...

    "You Know What, I Want 75% Of the Split Instead, Fuck 70%"...By Jumping on a SHIT Counter Offer from Laila, That's PRECISELY What Claressa is Leaving Herself Vulnerable To Bruh...

    Laila's OBVIOUSLY Trying to Scratch Some Sort of Itch or She'd Have Never Spoken Ill Of/Towards Claressa in the 1st Place...

    If Laila REALLY Wants the Fight She'll Have REASONABLE Expectations In Terms of Split...If Laila REALLY DOESN'T Want the Fight and is Merely Clout Chasing, She Could Keep Playing this Game Until She's Got a Damn 95-5 Split...





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    Claressa's a FIGHTER Bruh, Not an Opportunist...

    Her BOXING Legacy is Much More Important to Her than Fame, CookBooks or Being on Oprah's Network in 15-20 Years...





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    If Shields is the GWOAT - and I dunno whether she is or not - I dont care about the joke sport, so I never watched Riker and Mann Wolfe in their primes. But if Shields is the GWOAT, then it's a sad commentary the quality of the sport, cause truthfully she isnt very good.

    It's like Shawn Porter being the GOAT in men's boxing.

    The odds are that ONE day there will be an exceptionally talented chick who comes around and is good enough to compel boxing fans to watch her, but that chick ain't Shields. I'm not impressed by a goddamn thing she does in the ring.
     
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    it seems that you could construe shields as having taken the first shot by claiming to be the greatest. at ali, wolfe, rijker, etc. it aint like shields has beat a litany of bigtime fighters. is there anyone on her resume u think ali wouldnt have beaten?
     
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    Did Laila need 10 fights before she scored her first career KD?

    Ole Spadafora ass Shields.
     
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    Claressa Shields is MORE Skilled than Shawn Porter for Certain...

    Clearly, She's NOT Lomachenko, Bud or Canelo, but it's Pretty Obvious You HAVEN'T Watched Her if You REALLY Think Shawn Porter's All Around Level of Skill is EQUAL to Claressa Shields'...

    More THOUGHT and SCIENCE to the Way Claressa Fights, Compared to Porter...







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    Shields is a MOUTHY, OPINIONATED Bitch That Almost Always has Something INTERESTING to Say...Similar to Ronda Rousey in THAT Way, Sans the Pouty Faced, Bully Mentality...

    Best Chick Laila Ever Beat was a Tough, Butch-Lesbian Corrections Officer Named Valerie Mahfood...

    Mahfood Actually Stopped Ann Wolfe Early in Ann's Career...Haven't Seen it But Heard it was CARDIO Related...They Rematched Several Bouts Later and Wolfe Beat the Shit Out of Mahfood for 10 Full Rounds, on the Laila-Christy Martin Undercard...Mahfood was the Female Equivalent of Tex Cobb or George Chuvalo, Basically...

    Christy Martin Doesn't Count in REED's Opinion Because She was 137 Years Old When Her and Laila Fought and MUCH Smaller, Naturally...Joe Frazier's Daughter was Just a Name...Not Bad by Base Level Women Fighter Standards, but Not MEMORABLE Either, Aside from the Last Name...

    The Women's Game has EVOLVED Quite a Bit Sense Then...NONE of the Early Broads Had Even 1 Amateur Fight...Christy Martin, Lucia Rijker, Laila Ali, Ann Wolfe, NONE of Them Boxed as Amateurs...Rijker Had a Kickboxing Background Though, if REED's Not Mistaken...

    Anyways, the VAST MAJORITY of Contemporary Women's Fighters HAVE Fought Amateur...Claressa Was like 77-1 as an Ammy, Back to Back Gold Medalist...Laila NEVER Fought Any Broads w/the Skill/Technique of a Hannah Gabriels or Christina Hammer...

    Here's THE Worst Moment of Claressa's Career Thus Faaaaaaaaaaaar, Getting Dropped by Gabriels…



    Women WEREN'T Putting Punches Together Quite Like THAT in the Earlier Days of Their Sport...







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    Did the rise of women's boxing coincide with the #MeToo movement or somethin?

    I wanna go back to the period in boxing when people realized these hoes are strictly meant for untelevised undercards.
     
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    "That's Because Laila was Fighting Soccer Moms and Strippers; I was Fighting REAL Fighters" - Claressa Shields...

    Laila Ali - 24-0, 21 KO's...6 of her 1st 9 Opponents had LOSING Records, 2 Others were Pro Debuts...9-0, 8 KO's...

    Of the Opponents w/WINNING Records, 3 had @ Least 4 L's...2 had @ Least 5 L's and Another had as Many as 6 L's, All PRIOR to Facing Laila...6-0, 6 MORE KO's...

    Other than Christ Martin, Who Fought 49 Times, Laila NEVER Faced a Woman w/as Many as 20 Fights...

    Claressa Shields - 10-0, 2 KO's...Claressa Faced 1 Pro Debut, Another Pretty Good Chick Fighter Named Franchon Crews (Who's Now 6-1, 2 KO's), Who Had OVER 50 Ammy Fights Herself...Claressa Has Not and WILL NOT Face a Woman w/a LOSING Record...EVER...

    ALREADY Faced 5 Broads w/@ LEAST 20 PRO Fights, and Traveled DOWN 3 Weights, Where the Talent Pool in Women's Boxing is Deeeeeeeeeeeeper, More CHALLENGING and SKILL Oriented...

    Loooooooooooooong Story Short, Laila Faced Girls Who Just Soooooo HAPPENED to Box or were Looking for a Quick Financial Lick...Claressa's Faced Girls Who've Wanted to Do NATHAN Else BUT Box Their Entire Lives...

    The COACHING of Women's Fighters is Significantly BETTER Than it Was (Elite Trainers Look as Them as MORE than Just a Fad These Days), the Women of Today are More ATHLETIC, In SUPERIOR Condition and Actually STUDY & CRITIQUE Their Craft...

    It'll NEVER Approach the Level of MEN's Boxing, But Women's Boxing has EVOLVED Quite a Bit...Hell, 1 of THE Best Fighters in UFC Women's History is a BOXER By the Name of Holly Holm...







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    maybe the women shields is facing are better now, but do you think any of her opponents would have beaten ali ?

    i may have seen some parts of the mahfood fights between wolfe and ali but dont recall. so mahfood stopped wolfe, then got stopped twice by ali and then lost decisions twice to wolfe.

    seems to indicate wolfe was over rated as a puncher based on splattering that gangly white broad.
     
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    I saw and talked to Mahfood after she fought Christy Martin. She is a sweet girl Neil, but you had to look twice then as no girls had guy's haircuts ten plus years ago. She told me she was a corrections officer. Did not speak to Christy as she stormed out of the ring cursing saying Bullshit! but she backed up the entire time. The left side of her face was black and blue so someone was hitting her.
     
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    because i don't know who she is, Reed
     
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    Pound for Pound, Hannah Gabriels and Christina Hammer BEAT Laila Ali...For Certain...

    But That's Just It...Laila was a Tall, Thick, 200lb Broad Who Fought @ '68...Gabriels is a Short '54 Pounder and Hammer is a Tall, Slender, Finesse Oriented '60 Pounder...But Even w/a Size Discrepancy, They'd Have Each Given Laila TOUGHER Fights than Any Women She Actually Fought in Her Day, and Quite Possibly BEATEN Laila...

    w/Out Having SEEN Mahfood-Wolfe I, It's Impossible for REED to Reach the Same Conclusion You Have About Ann...The "Gangly White Broad" Ann Destroyed was 23-1, 17 KO's and Women's Heavyweight Champion, FYI:Jest:...

    REED Did See @ Least 1 of the Ali-Mahfood Fights and the Stoppage was More a Matter of Accumulation than Sheer Power on Laila's Behalf...Wolfe was More of a Spurt Fighter; Powerful Combos Followed by a Lull, Rinse-Repeat...





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    Let's check back this time next year to see if this ever happened
     
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    Even more reason to hate shields now as a proven doper!
     

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