Why wasn't there an immediate Tyson-Douglas rematch?

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  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think Holy was a mandatory for all three belts
     
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    Trey KO WBC Champion

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    Douglas got off first. Getting off first is one of the most underrated aspects of boxing. Even counter punchers find their spots on when to get off first.

    Douglas went from one extreme to another without "Posing" and admiring his work. Douglas seamlessly went from one combination to another regardless of how basic the combination was: Jab, Jab, right; Jab, Jab, Jab, Right, dip, slide away to the left or right; Jab, Jab, half step back, big right hand... Just beautiful boxing.
     
  3. whiskey

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    Yep. If Arreola beat Vitali, he'd be on one of those tv shows where they need a hoist to get him out of the house by now.
     
  4. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    Lol

    Buster fought great but come on Hanzy..

    Mike was recorded out drinking and partying..he really didn't train and was drunk half the time.he was in no shape to even fight
     
  5. Hanz

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    That's what happens when so many of your fights last 1 or 2 rounds. When somebody comes along who's ready for war, you best be ready! :Thumbs:
    Regardless, any version of Tyson would've gotten KTFO that night. Buster was a demon! You don't f*ck with a dude who's lost a family member. They best be left alone. Right LOK?
     
  6. LOK

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    I disagree completely.. I think buster fought well but Tyson was in no condition to fight
     
  7. steve_dave

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    Combination of both for sure.
     
  8. Hanz

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    Tyson was doing drugs since he was a teenager. He didn't just start doing drugs prior to the Douglas fight.:l2:
    Stop with the excuses. Just admit the truth that Tyson fought easy fights for too long and wasn't ready for a war.
    Same sh*t happened to him against Holyfield. You fight bums like Bruno, McNeely, Mathis Jr, and Seldon who all fall down for you in like 1 or 2 rounds and then meet somebody who can go to war, what do you think's gonna happen?
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    tyson was running up in types of concubines the week of the douglas fight
     
  10. Hanz

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    That's what he did before every fight. Drugs and whores! That was his lifestyle like most athletes.
     
  11. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    that was what his opponents did before they fought him, actually.
     
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    But he didn't beat Vitali, because the 38 year old Champ was in pristine shape- by any era's standards.:kidcool:

    That and the fact that Vitali was much much much much much much much much taller and much much much much much bigger and much much much heavier than him.

    Size matters, especially at 150/145/152 and these other new divisions.
     
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    Tyson lost because of TYSON. A prepared mike never loses to Buster Douglas. All that night proved is TYSON couldn't beat an ordinary fighter when he spent training camp hip deep in Asian Pussy alcohol and blow.dOUGLAS FOUGHT A GOOD FIGHT, a great fight, but it would have meant fuck all had Tyson trained for a fight. Douglas would have been pushing up daises.
     
  14. Hanz

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    Blah blah blah.....Would've, could've, should've....:finger:
    Tyson got KTFO like a little cunt! All those years of fighting handpicked loser bums caught up to him. He couldn't handle a war. Buster would've f*cked up any version of Tyson that night.
    You can see in the skill level of Buster that night, the dude was something serious. Something you never saw in all those other clowns Tyson was fighting like Tucker, Bonecrusher, Spinks. Guys who had no intention of coming to win. Fighting like cunts.
     
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    A skeleton walks into a bar, orders a beer and a mop...:say:
     
  16. LOK

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    Hanzy shows he doesn't know shit..

    Tyson was a gym freak coming up.. as a kid he trained his ass off with Cus and you say he fought bums etc... Mike was a young young guy DOMINATING much more experienced fighters..

    when the douglas fight came... that to me was where it just got to be too much for him and he believed he could do whatever he wanted and didn't have to train etc..

    before he fought spinks, Mike was not with whores and drunk all the time..

    before Douglas he was in NO shape to fight
    just like when he fought Lemmon years later
     
  17. Hanz

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    Come on LOK! Stop being a f*cking Tyson apologist. Look at Tyson's fights and look at all the shady sh*t that goes on in them. Look at the Seldon fight. Tyson's punch sails over the guy's head and Seldon drops dead like a f*cking actor!
    Look at Etienne. Etienne drops, slowly takes his mouthpiece out, lays there and then 10 seconds later is high-fiving his corner cause he got an easy $2.5 mill for doing f*ck all.
    Look at the Savarese fight. Tyson skims the guy's head with barely a punch and the guy falls down like he's f*cking dead!
    Look at his other fights even in his prime including the Alex Stewart fight. Tyson's right hand doesn't even make contact and Stewart falls like a f*cking cunt.:laughing:
    The same Stewart who gave tough fights to Holyfield and Foreman.
    You're on drugs LOK if you can't see what's so obvious. Many of Tyson's fights were shady. Don King has been linked to fight fixing and paying off boxers.
    The guy even paid off the WBA to insert Peter McNeely into the top 10 rankings prior to Tyson's comeback from prison. :lol:
     
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    I hate Mike Tyson. I hope he dies violently. He is a sexual deviant, a criminal, a disgusting street thug , a rapist and a loser. This whole Tyson wasn't very good shit just shouldn't be going on in a boxing forum with hardcore fans. The guy had a short , but arguably, most dominate reign of any fighter ever. In retrospect, you can slice up anyone's resume. There were plenty of people, announcers all saying Spinks would beat him. When he beat Berbeck, they'd say, he wouldn't beat Spinks for years. Hell, in retrospect, the Holmes victory looks good. Tyson was the only fighter to knock HOLMES OUT EVER. And years after that, Holmes humilated Ray Mercer, a guy who arguably beat Lennox Lewis in his prime. That even older, shoter version of Holmes beat Ray like a bitch and was talking to the announcers while beating his ass. Tyson didn't beat any great fighters while they were great, but he made serviceable fighters his bitches and stopped most of them with ease. Comparing a real fighter like Tyson to a bitch like Maweather is disgusting.
     
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    That's bullshit about Tucker

    he broke his fucking hand in the third round, what the hell was he supposed to keep him off with?

    Tucker started well against Tyson
     
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    THANKS. Midgets are for circuses and not for grammar lessons.wiggermidgetwhosuckskocksayswhut
     
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    The problem with Tyson was how many of his fights seemed shady. Look at the Tyson/Stewart fight. Watch Stewart fall down from a missed right hand and watch the commentators not even say anything for a good 3 seconds because they're wondering "What the f*ck did he fall down from?":scratcher:

    Watch Tyson vs Seldon and see Tyson's right hand sail several inches over Seldon's head and Seldon falling down like a sh*tty actor.

    Watch Tyson vs Etienne and see Etienne pulling his gumshield from his mouth slowly while taking his 10 count and then a minute later, high-fiving and laughing with his corner after scoring a $2 million payday.

    Watch Tyson/Savarese and notice Savarese fall down from a punch which skimmed his f*cking head! Nobody says sh*t but it's pretty obvious! A lot of shady sh*t went on in these fights.

    Also take notice of Don King fixing the WBA rankings in 1995 and getting McNeely ranked right before Tyson's big comeback. People sweep sh*t under the rug and just walk the other way.

    It's obvious many many boxers came to quit against Tyson, many gave a half assed effort and pretended that they were trying or were scared outright. What's funny is that far superior boxers to the likes of Buster Douglas and Razor Ruddock fell down to Tyson quickly whereas these 2 guys didn't fall down for him. Even a f*cking blown up cruiser in Holyfield took umpteen flush punches to the jaw from Tyson's fists and didn't budge.
    All the while, a guy like Seldon falls from a punch which doesn't even make contact. And the Savarese fight was a joke in itself.

    Every notice how many booos and chants of "Fixed" and "Bullsh*t" preceded Tyson's fights?:lol:
     
  23. LOK

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    Lol @ " shit bird"
     
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    It's from the wire. Neil has seen the Wire because it has a cast of several black males and he needs material for his "spank bank."
     
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