Wilder v Fury II

Anthony Joshua has got none of the natural size and strength of Tyson Fury. He's all weights and protein shakes.Like Wilder he won't like some twitchy giant coming out, looking over him, looking to hit him when he should know that AJ is the star.

Fury would throw any version of Ruiz around like he was nothing.

Can you see Fury going on a special diet and relocating to Saudi and boxing to orders against an even fatter version of Ruiz?

Ruiz vs Fury would be helter skelter for about 5 minutes until Ruiz slowed right down then Fury started bombing him and walking him onto those weird uppercuts.

Funny.....Fury is a 2 time champ who has made 0 successful defences. In fact, he has made 0 defences.

Three title fights. Three wins, really. But not a single defence.

 

It all depends on how Wilder responds physically and MENNALLY to the worst beating of his life.

If he gets over it, recuperates, and takes some lessons, he could remain a dangerous player.

 

It was a great event but as a fight I wouldn't give it more than 6 out of 10 and that's per se and relative to the shit they had on beforehand.

I don't think I saw much in terms of classic textbook boxing.

Fury has a massive effective jab but it's not a great jab in the classical sense.

He probably won't fight Joshua the same way, but Joshua has weapons that could have been used last night that simply were not there for the ganglier Wilder.

Wilder never had the mass or the lower-body power to work an uppercut in close.

Fury was smothering his own work yet perversely leaving gaps that a stronger man could have ripped shots up through in those corners.

 

Very ugly spectacle.....the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485 was described as an ugly melee and that's what you had last night.

 

V interested by Furys choice of Paffen Gloves.

Those were big in Germany in the 1990's and you never saw them apart from on the German cards.

Allegedly Fury had issues with them in Germany and refused to fight at one point, now he wears them.

Klitschko used to wear Reyes and Grant and then changed to Paffen.,

 

Oh, and just for the record, compare their ringwalks and their songs. Wilder just got semi-retired by somebody coming out to a fucking Patsy Cline song.

You walk by, and I, go to......pieces.

 

Fury's jab doesn't need to be smooth and classical, as I mentioned after the first fight his whole style is based off a lack of rhythm on his own part and disrupting that of his opponent. Like you say, it's effective, and that's all it needs to be. Fury's never been bothered about style points, it's all about the result.

The smothering was for the most part intentional, he was ragdolling Wilder in there, I remember him doing it before against Cunningham and Chisora in the first fight, Lewis used to do it a lot as well. I think Fury is one hell of a fighter personally, really nice skills, versatile and a great ring IQ.

 

Did you see Wilder's trainer is blaming his ringwalk costume for the loss? Said it was too heavy

 

His Ring IQ is excellent, he's been at it all his life. Most of these guys buy a bag and make some noises into a camera, now they are "Boxers". BS.

I said it years ago, he was going to be a serious threat. I watched him against Chisora and as a kid he did better than Vitali, albeit in Vitali's 2nd last fight. Chisora didn't dare slap anyone at that weigh in. Fury is so relaxed and unfazed he gets through rounds burning very little gas.

Joshua just might get a monster uppercut off in there. That's his angle. My guess is that Fury won't try that versus Joshua, instead he'll maintain his signal-jamming style with those radar-disrupting chaff jabs and twitches, until Joshua has sort of worn down by the sheer excitement of standing for 7 or 8 rounds against somebody he can't just put down for fun.

Fury., for all his size, has a slender enough neck. He better not lean in there against Joshua.

 

LOL. Like I said, truly the era of bullshit. Guys used to run 15 miles with weighted kit to get fit. Now they can't even walk to the ring in their ridiculous attire.

I wonder where Furys "Robe" and "Crown" went. They might be worth fortunes now.

 

Bayliss is a hoot. He was watching Wilder like a trainee security guard in a 7-11 in downtown Baltimore on his first day.

0:15 onwards....especially 0:30

 

True words. A guy doesn't get exposed after 43 fucking fights, he just got trashed

 

Wilder didn't get "exposed" cause we always knew he had zero skill, zero defense, and a dodgy chin. None of these were mysteries. It was just a question of which fight would his bail-out-power fail him.

 

Well I cannot say that I said Fury would win but I also did say that the weight would mean shit. It was a touch heavy but utterly insignificant. And I was right about Wilder.......but for the wrong reasons. 15lbs lighter and he probably doesn't make it out of the 2nd round.

 

But his power didn't fail him. He couldn't reach the switch. He cannot reach it when he is walking backwards and after 2 rounds of fox-in-da-coop treatment he was never going to be able to reach it.

EDIT; If Wilder had been able to land the first bomb we'd have had a different fight. Fury might have eschewed his balls to the wall approach and gone back to "boxing".....instead he rocked Wilder and Wilder could never reach his guns thereafter.

By the time Fury was making enough mistakes to allow himself to get hit, Wilders legs and balance and confidence had totally gone.

It shows you that there's a world of difference between weight and fitness....Fury was not fit last time out, he was only a few months removed from being in a nursing home.

 

Furys hook is a joke. It's basically a closed-hand slap to the face. He hits with the heel of his hand.

 

I think in this fight the left "hook" was used mainly as a tool to keep Wilder's right hand occupied or to parry it if Wilder tried to counter. Would have been dangerous if he'd really committed to it. Saying that though he's never really had beautiful form on any of his shots.

 

Big John McDermott still the only man to really beat Tyson Fury

 

Y'all musta forgot...dropped Wilder with a bodyshot.

 

That was a strange knockdown in that Wilder didn't seem hurt .... it was more of a push down

 

He had him moving backwards already, and then sank the left into his body as he was reeling.

Genuine knockdown, but it was basically a shoving match by then anyways.

 

It's much easier to execute that when a guy has footwork and balance as inept as Wilder's.

Truly the scrubbiest boxer to ever make it big.

 

Scrubbiest to beat a Cuban Olympian twice probably too

 

46 year old cuban

 

Ortiz does look to be in his late 40s.

 

With 41 KOs at professional level and 1 fight away from a defense record.

Basically, if he'd won, the Americans on this site would've been all over it.
Because he lost and lost big, he's shit.

 

And experts were picking him to win.

 

That's true.
Of which I was one who picked Tyson by stoppage...which is why I wasn't surprised.

Didn't even know the result until yesterday morning.