Witter good Hatton bad

The WORST Part is, Hatton's Been CLEAR about his Short Term Plans ALL ALONG...

A "Comeback" Fight (Lazcano), Unifying Against Malignaggi, then WHATEVER Else...

If Witter Does HIS Job, Keeps HIMSELF N the Picture, Hatton WILL Fight him...Does Witter NOT Comprehend This???


REED:dunno:

 

That's an excuse Reed. ODLH used to say the same thing about Vargas but Vargas didn't have to wait as long as Witter is having to.

The funny thing is, if Hatton had taken this fight earlier, he would have had a better chance of winning. Now it looks like Witter is only getting miles better while Hatton appears to be regressing badly.

 

It's only an Excuse if Hatton NEVER Faces Witter...

Even if Hatton IS "Scared" (which he ISN'T, NATHAN about Hatton Suggests he's AFRAID of Anything or Anybody) , he'll have NO CHOICE but to Face Witter, if Witter Handles HIS OWN Business...U May B Right, it MIGHT BITE Hatton N his Ass, Putting Witter on the Backburner, but he WILL Fight him Eventually...

As for your DeLa Comparison, SURE, DeLa was SHREWD, OPPORTUNISTIC & a PRICK to Negotiate w/, but 1 Thing he WASN"T was "Scared"...

As it Pertains to Junior Witter, Ricky Hatton IS DeLa...


REED

 

That's because of Felix Trinidad...and then Wilfredo Rivera.

If Witter gets KO'd by Bradley and then dropped badly against a subsequent opponent, maybe Hatton will change his mind.::

 

hatton is ducking witter now. but it's not fair to say he was ducking before the floyd fight.

hatton might be "making witter suffer", but he's also making british boxing fans suffer.

 

This is an excellent point. Imagine if Hatton had fought Witter instead of Floyd. I remember when it looked like LL was going to fight Chris Byrd, people bitched that he wasn't facing Vitali. Once that fight got signed, whingers were crawling out of the woodwork screaming that LL was ducking Byrd.

You can't please some people. Guys are saying that Ricky had nothing to lose going into that fight. How about his '0' that everyone thinks is so important? What about the hit to his confidence and pride at taking his first loss?

Yeah, he lost nothing that fight. Now people are bitching that he didn't fight the guy everyone was calling a scrub 6 months ago instead.

 

This much is true. Around the time Hatton fought Tszyu, he was faster, more ferocious, had better stamina, and was HUNGRIER.

Hatton has regressed badly. While the shitter has undeniably improved.

Around the time of Tszyu, Hatton would have wasted Witter.

Right now I would tenatatively pick hatton by decision.

 

junior would always have BLASTED hatton and he knows it

 

Hatton does appear to be in slow decline since the Tszyu fight. Certainly his style has become pretty basic and ugly and his stamina definitely does seem to have decreased.

I'm still not convinced that he has 'regressed badly' though. His two worst performances were Collazo and Floyd, both at 147. If and when Hatton fights like that at 140, I'll concede the degree of his regression.

IMO, Hatton-Witter NOW would be a 60/40 fight in Hatton's favour, and no more than that. This is why, as a Hatton fan, I wish he'd get on with this fight, because Junior is definitely getting better and time does not appear to be on Ricky's side.

In 12-18 months time, at present rate, I would have to pick Junior to win. Hatton is clearly not doing himself any favours...

 

Hattons always been avoiding Witter pal. This goes back as far as 2000 when Hatton won the British title and witter was there calling him out afterwards. It's been going on for 8 years now.

Peopel forget how much of a JOKE hatton was prior to the Tszyu fight. There was a 9 fight sequence of

1. Stephen Smith
2. Joe Hutchenson
3. Vince Phillips (70 years old)
4. Ben Tackie
5. DENNIS PEDERSON
6. Carlos VILCHES
7. Michael Steward
8. Ray Oliveria

Now, HOW THE FUCK can you condone these fights when Witter was PUBLICALLY putting himself forward for each fight. You weren't around then, but particularly on THIS FORUM, there were upteen cries of Hatton being a joke, being a bum, being protected etc. It really was a joke and culminated in very few people giving him a chance against Tszyu. REED picked Tszyu KO1, as I did.

However, the point remains, WHY DID HATTON FIGHT THESE FIGHTERS INSTEAD OF JUNIOR WITTER???

His excuses are laughable, "I have it in the contract for this summer" "I will fight him when he wins a title" "I'm not fighting him because he called me out".

SOMETHING HAS GOT TO GIVE.

Hatton has SHAMELESSLY been ducking Witter for all these years and there is no excuse. People are saying he is ducking him now, AND HE IS, but they don't even realise the extent of it.

Now he's fighting Lazcano, who lost to Harris who Witter LIQUIDATED.

He's never going to fight Witter unless the fans turn against him. Witter for his part is doing himself no favours with his inactivity but trust me, he simply can't get a fight. I'm glad he's got bradley on May 10th.

I uploaded a video of Witter calling Hatton out to his face, (go to youtube) which happened in 2001 after a Witter fight. I am currently uploading another one which happened in 2002.

Don't even attempt to argue that Hatton hasn't ducked witter as I will make an exhibition out of you on the forum again.

 

witter didnt step up his competition until he fought Lovemore N'dou (a consistent loser) in a hardly impressive win despite scoring a pair of knockdowns.

he then beat Kotelnik (a decent fighter) by a skin of teeth and nearly lost again to some domestic club fighter named Lynes.

also, winning a belt against a faded demarcus corley in one of the most borign fight ever was nothing special.

let's not pretend as if witter was some sort of a badass who took on all comers.

 

Hang on for a second,

Witter hasn't had the luxury of choosing his opponents like Hatton. he hasn't has the luxury of having people clamoring to fight him.

He;s done everything the hard way.

He DID beat kotelnik, although it was indeed close, but IMO Kotelnik is better than most on Hattons record, with obvious 2 exceptions.

Witter has had to take every chance he's been given. The Corley fight was boring, but it was always going to be and if Witter had LOST that fight, he would have been completely forgotten so he did what he had to do. It was boring as hell to most, but job done.

If Witter had the luxury of choosing opponents, he would have fought the best long before Hatton did. Fighting Judah on 9 days notice shows that.

 

I refuse to go over this again. I have pulled your stance apart on a number of occasions in about half a dozen 'Hatton is a bum' threads you start every week or so.

I have told you before, I am a big Junior Witter fan and I for one want to see Hatton-Witter more than any other fight out there right now. Hatton doesn't want to fight Witter, I'll give you that. He clearly hates him.

If Hatton retires without fighting Witter, I'll accept what you say. Until then, the idea that Hatton is 'scared' of Witter but 'not scared' of Tsyzu, Castillo and Floyd Mayweather is preposterous.

 

You are not stupid, so I now understand what you are doing. You are simply refusing to acknowledge the point that a loss to Witter is very different than a loss to Castillo, Tszyu or Floyd. Simply put.

 

Witter 'fought' Zab, did he? I was under the impression that he ran for his life?

If Junior had been PROMOTED better, had AIMED higher, had tried to fight OTHER PEOPLE bar hanging onto Hatton's coat tails for about eight years, maybe he'd be able to pick and choose his opponents. As it is, Hatton beat the recognised 140 No.1 (Tszyu) to EARN the right to pick and choose.

Witter had a chance to make his name against Zab. And he blew it and has paid for it ever since...

 

Yep, short notice or not, he fought like a fucking bitch, and has been remembered for it ever since. Since then he's simply been "The Shitter".

Pacman also took a fight with Ledwaba on short notice, and looked what happened there.

 

A loss is a loss. Hatton told the world he would beat Floyd and lost lopsidedly. Why would a loss to Junior be any worse?

If Hatton loses to Junior, than I will give Junior major props. If you READ what I post, you'll note that IMO this delay SUITS Junior, because his chances of winning that fight improve day on day.

I am not anti-Witter. Stop posting replies to my posts as if I am. :doh:

 

Funny, Witter's entire resume consists of guys no better than the 9 fight streak Attraction posted of Hatton's.

 

There isn't a single name on Witter's resume worth a great deal. Kotelnik is useful, DeMarcus is also, so was a (shot) Harris. And that is it.

Cupey once tried to argue that Witter's resume was better than Hatton's...::

 

Agreed, but he is glad that fight happen because it changed him as a fighter.

I guess Witter didn't think Hatton COULD POSSIBLY get away with avoiding him for so long.

The Zab fight was a bad fight but people really do blow it out of proportions. I know you wont, but if you ever get a chance to watch it entirely, Witter didn't do as bad as was made out. He RAN for his life in the last few rounds, but he did OK early and really had Judah confused. He took some flush shots too which put him on the bicycle. All in all, it has fucked him up, he would have been better off lgoing for it and letting Judah get the KO.

Even as champion Witter is finding it hard to get a fight, so you can imagine how hard it was as a lowly challenger. He would take a fight against a top fighter in an instant if it came along and has never ducked anybody.

 

Come on.

A loss to the BEST who are world renound is hardly the same as a loss to Witter. No shame in losing to tszyu or Floyd, but there is great shame in losing to someone who you have avoided for so long.

It would undermine his entire career.

 

Really?

Which one of them would beat Kotelnik?

 

With the exception of Tszyu and Floyd, there is nothing between them. Hatton got hammered by Floyd and his fouling against Tszyu was... controversial to say the least.

 

if Harris is so shot, then how do you condone the Lazcano fight for Hatton?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX5JWdZsRaU

witter on hatton.

 

Why is Harris shot?

 

Not sure, but he certainly fell like he was shot after Witter cracked him wth that short left.

 

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