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I dig Reed and am not going to get into a insult fest. I could, but I just don't dislike Reed like some others.

Good opinions and perhaps I am too critical of boxing. I'll give it some thought.

 

There's nothing to thank. The point that the UFC is in a greater position of power than anyone in boxing only magnifies the screwjob that they are doing to the fighters. Floyd and Pacq are looking to make $40 or $50 million each for their fight which might sell over 2 million ppv's.

How much would they be making in the UFC? Guess.

 

Who cares? How old is boxing compared to MMA? MMa is new compared to boxing, the pay scale will get better with time, like it has been.

 

So now you're comparing UFC pay, which is undefined, to the pay for a fight in boxing that hasn't happened and hasn't even been signed.

Yeah, that seems like a fact-based comparison.

I will say it one last time since you are incredibly dense and only apt at dodging questions.

Show me the UFC financial data you're using to determine their fighters should be paid more.


It's an insane discussion because neither of us has any idea 1) What a fighter in the UFC actually gets paid in total. 2) None of us have any idea at the exact PPV sales or revenue sharing deals that the UFC has.

As I said in my response to Reed, maybe I am too critical of boxing. But when it comes to UFC pay, it has nothing to do with boxing in my opinion.

 

As long as it never gets to a point where fighter's pay makes it difficult to stage the best fights, I am OK with it.

 

You are bitching about a separate issue.

 

Try here: http://mmajunkie.com/news/26754/ufc...-brock-lesnar-will-be-tonights-top-earner.mma

GSP: $4-5 million per fight with $1M of that being endorsements.

We have an idea, you just dismiss it because it cuts against your position.

We've got all kinds of ideas when it comes to the less-than-elite mma fighters and they get screwed at seemingly the same %.

Cerone's $30,000 to co main event one of the biggest ppv shows of the year. And yet, you defend because he may have gotten a $100,000 signing bonus or he might get $50,000 in endorsements.

 

And this sums up why you stick your head in the sand and your ass at the same time when it comes to the topic of fighter pay. You look at it from a fan's perspective and the UFC monopoly has been serving fans very well.

 

Not sure your intent, but that link gave the reported payouts of UFC 141. Which again, didn't address any bonuses and absolutely didn't discuss the UFC's revenue/expense situation.Certainly that's not what your talking about, right? Certainly you've got more than that RIGHT?

So again, same question, same bold print:

Show me the UFC financial data you're using to determine their fighters should be paid more.


There is no shame in admitting you can't produce this information. Neither can I. So we have no basis for thinking we know what UFC fighter SHOULD get paid.

Or are you really TOO DENSE to understand this?

 

The product is great and the fighters, even lower tier guys, seem happy with their employment....




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Why should I, as someone who has no knowledge of the UFC's finances, complain. That would just be stupid. That's more your speed.

 

Down below some GSP stuff is quoted.

 

Oh holy shit... We have an estimate of what GSP makes...

I literally give up. :bangh:

 

you stupid twits. it was real hard to find the source. all of one google.

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/11/9/2...s-georges-st-pierre-make-on-ufc-pay-per-views

About $4 to $5 million per fight.
That's according to Georges St. Pierre himself, who recently told the Agence France-Presse how much he makes every time he fights on pay-per-view:

"I learned that the UFC makes the most money on pay-per-view when I am fighting. That made me smile. For me, a fight is (worth) $4 to $5 million, and in the city where the UFC holds its events, there are economic benefits of between $15 to $20 million. It's huge!"
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It sure is good to be the king of the welterweight division, huh?
While that's certainly a high number, it should come as no surprise. After all, UFC President Dana White recently made it clear that St. Pierre is the biggest pay-per-view star in the business:

"Let me put it to you this way: Georges St. Pierre is, by far, the biggest pay-per-view star in mixed martial arts. By far. By far. The biggest pay-per-view star. Big. By far the biggest pay-per-view star in MMA. So, for what it's worth, for people who want to say he's this or that."
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According to the cold hard numbers, Brock Lesnar sells more pay-per-views on average than St. Pierre. And thanks to his getting a cut of that considerable piece of pie, we can safely say that Lesnar makes even more than "GSP."
Who says MMA doesn't pay?
Anyone surprised at hearing this number? Or did you expect it to be even higher?

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And let's just say that there is no reason to say Brock makes more when the friggin' quote is from Dana himself. Brock SHOULD make more. That's a different point.

 

your inability to appreciate how little that is in comparison to what it should be means that you should be the one to stfu

why do you think the UFC doesn't want fighters to say how much they make? Do you think they are worried about people saying 'gee golly, the ufc sure is generous!'

 

Explain in what sense you mean? A ppv event brings in what it brings in.

 

I am glad you don't run my business. You want to pay employees more without knowing what they make now or what kind of revenue the company pulls in.

But since another company SEEMINGLY pays their employees more, you should too. Great business acumen dude.

Yes, Anthony is the one that needs to STFU.....:bangh:

 

Wtf does that have to do with the big picture?

 

Do you own a business? I doubt it, because your position re the UFC shows an amazing lack of appreciation for unfair business practices.

How about we change the discussion around for a second. If mY assumptions are correct and everything I put forth is correct, do you agree or disagree with mY views? Specify which you do and which you don't.

 

And you limited revenue to gate? That makes no sense.

 

You first.