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  1. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Foster better than Moore!? I'm not sure you'd find a majority with you there.

    Probably, most would agree Charles is the best non-holder at the weight, though I would vote Gene Tunney.
     
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    I am not concerned with what majority, whomever they are, think.

    I have no problem with anyone selecting Moore, but to say I'm dead wrong is..dead wrong.

    I think Foster would have cleaned Moore's plow for him, and Foster told him so to his face.

    Tunney held Tommy Loughran to a draw, another guy whom a lot of folks pick, so I don't have an issue with him, either.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I see Foster as dead-wrong as a pick for the best 175lber ever. I really do see it as not even a case. Foster is back-end of the top-10 material, for me.

    LHW is surprisingly deep, historically.
     
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    And they would have been asleep had they faced Foster.

    A more dominant and intimidating Champion, with the exception of Joe Louis, never reigned more supreme for so lengthy a time period.
     
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    Historically it is deep, its full of great fighters who never co-existed as such, but the one time the division was deep, all at the same time, most of its best fighters {Saad, Mustafa, Yaqui Lopez, Mate Parlov etc} would have been food for powder vs the ATG's. Spinks is the possible exception.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Spinks is a definite exception, hes a great who could hang with the greats.

    You are right, the class has rarely been deep simultaneously, but wouldnt you agree the era of Moore and Charles, with all their contemporaries floating around, was the best example of what youre talking about, moreso than the 80's?
     
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    Possibly, possibly. The problem was, as I saw it, back then....was that any dominant 175lbr was always looking UP to Heavyweight instead of looking around his own division. Moore fought Valdes and Marciano before he fought Durelle and fought Valdes just after he fought Johnson.{3rd fight}. Foster continued this trend with fights vs Ali and Frazier and Spinks and even Jones kept it up.
     
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    Chris Byrd was a "Blown Up Middleweight" :lol:
     
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    Bob foster would have knocked gene Tunney dead

    I'd make him even money with Moore

    Charles is the best ever... Fuck belts ... Name a beltholder at 175 and you'll be naming somebody that would lose to Ezzard Charles

    I don't know how someone watches foster decapitate one guy after another with ease and sees him as a lower top ten guy ... That's nuts
     
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    1940s and 1970s into early 80s in the light heavyweight division were as deep and amazing as ANY WEIGHT CLASS EVER
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Dempsey couldn't do it (despite being in fairly decent condition for the rematch), Foster would not do it.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That's true, it is. I look at it this way, however --- would Charley Burley, Ezz Charles, Archie Moore, & the best of that era be dropping fights to the best LHW's of the 80's, at 175lbs?

    Respectfully to the 80's crop, I doubt it.
     
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    80's crop was deep but it had only one real standout, namely Spinks.

    I could see Spinks holding his own but guys like Galindez, Lopez and Saad-Muhammad would have been fairly routine assignments for Charles and Foster and Moore.

    I think Billy Conn would have beaten them too, bar Spinks.
     

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