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  1. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Anyone who actually believes that Floyd had any intention of fighting Kahn, a guy who sylistically could have actually been a nuisance to him....When Madianna became a possability...I have a bridge to sell ya
     
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    Anyone who thinks mayweather jr is worried about a guy who went life and death with Julio diaz, I have a concubine for you to wed
     
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    Agreed.

    dsimon, step away from the crackpipe with your hands where I can see them.
     
  4. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Styles make fights...Floyd had a bit of a problem with speed compliments of Judah and Mosley. Kahn has speed and reach. And while he has a china chin, when was the last time Mayweather fought in a style where he tried to KO someone? besides that retard Ortiz.

    madianna will never catch Floyd and Floyd knows that, which is why he shits on Bronner and takes that easy money. Of course Bronner would have gotten beat up again....so I guess it all works out.
     
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    LISB, Khan is too basic. He literally throws mindless flurries. Floyd will suss that bullshit in no time. Mosley is/was a much better fighter than Khan with more offensive skill. And Judah, for as much as he gets criticised, has always had good, sneaky, unpredictable offense AND is a southpaw. At his best at least, which I think he was against Floyd.

    Styles make fights, and a fighter with almost 0 ring IQ is going to get clowned with ease by a fighter with one of the best ring IQs in the sport.
     
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    It is hilarious to me that people think Khan would do anything but get knocked out by Floyd
     
  7. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd is the favorite by a wide margin in either scenerio....my only point is that Kahn is more of a challenge that Madianna and I think F,loyd knows this. Kahn is a mindless fighter I also would concede that point but surely no one can tell me that Madianna has a chance against Floyd!

    The differnece is that Madianna style wise is exactly what Floyd likes while Kahn is what occasionally troubles him....the other factor for Kahn is reach and jab both of which the de la hoya fight showed troubled floyd

    With that said if you want to argue that either guy beating floyd is equally impossible...ok I still think kahn has a slight edge
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Then you have a strange sense of humor....Floyd is fantastic but has not really Ko'ed anyone for a while now...
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Kahn is a dope! That much is true haha.
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    He hasn't fought anyone with a jaw made of crystal for a while now
     
  11. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    WE ALL KNOW KHAN WOULD LOSE. Nobody is saying Khan would win, we're saying his attributes make for a better fight. Floyd took time to adjust to guys faster than him even in his prime, I guarantee you Khan takes a couple early rounds off the 2014 version. Would Khan get knocked out? Probably.. but Floyd is hardly a power puncher at 147, so it wouldn't be early. Would it be more exciting than watching a one-sided 12-0 sparring session with Maidana? YES.
     
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    Further, though I'm sure Floyd is making bank to fight Maidana, he'd almost certainly make A LOT more fighting Khan (think PPV & gate). So why is Floyd fighting Maidana instead of Khan? For the fans? Please.. the only reason Floyd is taking Maidana over Khan is because it's an easier fight. That isn't to say a Khan fight would be difficult for him, but it certainly wouldn't be the walk in the park Maidana will be.

    Floyd is gunning for Marciano's record & he (or someone around him, such as Al Haymon) doesn't want to take chances.
     
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    I think Maidana will give him a tougher/better fight because he's a tougher/better fighter. I'm not sure where the idea that Floyd can handle any pressure fighter with ease comes from....Castillo & Jesus Chavez both gave him tough times and he's barely fought a decent one since.
     
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    I'm excited for this fight.
     
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    Aside from Castillo being a much better fighter than Maidana (can you see JLC losing to Khan?) and having a much bigger weight advantage, Floyd fought Castillo with a bad shoulder & a broken hand. And in spite of being weight drained, he gave Chavez a beatdown.
     
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    You guys are delusional. Maidana beats a totally unproven fighter who struggled with Paulie Malignaggi and now he's going to give Floyd Mayweather a good fight. Maidana isn't going to even be remotely competitive.
     
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    What's a good fight? Better than Amir Khan doesn't necessarily mean good.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    So true man. Khan is a way more interesting fight, Maidana won't win a nanosecond against Floyd. Some of these posters are just blinded by hate, Khan clearly poses stylistic issues for Floyd.
     
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    Does he fuck.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    You know he does and I know you know he does because we have spoken about this many a time before.
     
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    We all know that though. Who has said Maidana is going to be remotely competitive?

    He is simply the better of 2 evils. Khan has no chance at all either, none whatsoever, but at least Maidana has earned the fight more than Khan, and can punch harder.
     
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    REED Doesn't Get Why this is Soooooooooooooooo HARD to Comprehend...

    REED Rates the Competitiveness of a Fight On the Discrepancy in ROUNDS...How Many Did Fighter A Win???...How Many Did Fighter B Win???...As You've Stated, Floyd-Maidana has 12-0 SCHOOLING Written All Over It...Floyd BEATS Guys like Maidana In his Sleep, as We've ALL Seen...Maidana Brings NATHAN Special, NATHAN for Floyd to Concern Himself w/, To the Table, Which is WHY the Fight is Happening...

    Floyd BEATS Khan as Well, But @ Least There'd Be Moments of ADJUSTMENT in the Fight, Moments Where Floyd just MIGHT Have to Overcome a 1-2 Round Deficit, Moments Where he'll Have to Do MORE than Stick & Move his Way to a 12-0 Schooling...

    Khan is a MUCH More Interesting Fight...A More COMPETITIVE Fight, If Only for 6-7 Rounds...But REED would MUCH Rather Watch a Somewhat Competitive 6-7 Rounder, than the Same Ol', Same Ol' 12-0 BULLSHIT We've Seen a Thousand Times Already...





    REED:hammert:
     
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    Castillo was a SKILLED Pressure Fighter w/a Considerable Size ADVANTAGE Over Floyd...& Floyd TOYED w/Jesus Chavez, Bro...




    REED:hammert:
     
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    :lol: at competitive 6 or 7 rounder. You guys are overrating Khan like crazy.

    HE JUST SCRAPED PAST JULIO FUCKING DIAZ.

    All he brings is handspeed and mindless flurries. It's a competitive 1 rounder at best, maybe even a competitive 90 seconds.

    Maidana is going to get dominated too, that's obvious, but he's earned the fight and at least has a 1 in 100 puchers chance.
     
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    Watch the Jesus chavez fight again. He didn't toy with him at all, he had to work for the win, and Jesus actually won a few rounds.

    Pressure fighters do well against Floyd, good ones at least. In fact it's a pretty classic style to combat a slick boxer. Even Hatton was competitive until the midway stage.

    Hut is right - decent pressure fighters give Floyd trouble. Even Carlos Hernandez was surprisingly competitive, and won a few rounds. The problem here is I'm not sure Maidana really qualifies as a decent pressure fighter at world level, he's perhaps still a bit too crude, even though he has improved.
     
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    A "Totally Unproven Fighter who Struggled w/Paulie Malignaggi" After MOVING UP TWO Weight Classes, No Less...

    SHIT Fight...





    REED:hammert:
     
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    Nah, Floyd Definitely TOYED w/Chavez...

    Don't Let the OVERLY Enthusiastic Crowd, REACTING Every time Chavez's Arms Moved to SWAY You...That was 1 of the Few Times Floyd Intentionally ESCHEWED Defense Pretty Much Altogether...Floyd KNEW Chavez had a 0% Chance of Hurting Him, Floyd was the BIGGER Man By a Good Bit, So he Stayed in the Pocket & Beat the Shit Out of Chavez...

    Carlos Hernandez was "Competitive" Because it LITERALLY HURT Floyd Every time he TOUCHED the Dude...That was the Fight where Floyd Drills Hernandez on Top of the Head, GRIMACES in Pain & Takes a Knee for the 1st "Knockdown" of his Career...

    Hatton had Success Because he was an ATHLETIC Pressure Fighter...Maidana ISN'T That...

    SHIT Fight...




    REED:hammert:
     
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    I totally agree with REED here.

    It could be that PBF vs Khan is over in two rounds, it wouldn't be surprising at all, whereas Maidana will very likely be in there for several rounds and likely makes it to hear the final bell. Yes, Maidana is also more deserving than Khan. But still, Khan would be the more interesting and potentially the more difficult fight.

    It is the same as with Judah and Baldomir: Baldomir won their fight fair, he was better than Judah of that time and deserved his chance against Floyd more, but Judah made a better fight against FLoyd, if only for few rounds. This situation here is very similar, the difference being that neither of these guys is a guy Floyd "has to" fight, it is his choice. I would hope he chooses Khan.

    Khan does pose PBF some stylistical problmes, mainly by being exceptionally fast and moving exceptionally well. Floyd needs to adapt, and of course he will do it, probably quickly too. Even so, that itself makes the fight more interesting than schooling Maidana, which is not even remotedly exciting
     
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    Khan is CONSIDERABLY More Likely to Put Forth a COMPETITIVE 6-7 Rounds than Maidana is to Win Soooooo Much as 2 of 12 Rounds, Dude...

    Power is USELESS w/Out the Ability to LAND...

    In 6-7 Rounds, REED GUARANfuckingTEES Khan Would LAND More Shots on Floyd, than Maidana Would in 12 FULL Rounds...GUARANTEED...

    This is the NOTORIOUS Cherry Picker Floyd Mayweather we're Talking about Here...Dude has REPEATEDLY Taken the Path of LEAST Resistance...The Mere Fact Khan was All but Penciled In, then Given the Boot @ the 11th Hour, Should Tell You Something...Floyd Deems Maidana as LESS of a Threat, Therefore he Got the Fight...




    REED:hammert:
     
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    Mayweather jr picks opponents who are coming off impressive victories
     

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